Granny Danger Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, mjw said: Phones Putin to congratulate him on his 'hard won' election victory. I’m sure he will be criticised by the Tories for this. You know, just to make sure they’re consistent. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/20/tories-attack-junckers-nauseating-letter-congratulating-putin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Accuse of chemical weapon attack. Congratulate on election win. Maybe May's support among allies isn't so strong after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Accuse of chemical weapon attack. Congratulate on election win. Maybe May's support among allies isn't so strong after all. Also stated that the chemical attack was not discussed, ooft ,shoulder to shoulder 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, jakedee said: Also stated that the chemical attack was not discussed, ooft ,shoulder to shoulder Never mind, we'll get to try chlorinated chicken and hormone stuffed beef soon! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest of Dean Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Cambridge Analytica using British and Israeli companies that specialise in intelligence gathering to gather data on users: https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-campaign-mined-facebook-user-data-using-israeli-intelligence-gathering/ High likelyhood that these (unnamed) companies have ex-military intelligence officers amongst their staff. In fact a man who was involved setting up the Latvian training programme mentioned below used to be a commanding officer in the British Army's Psychological Operations unit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-tatham-ph-d-340aa434/ It's also known that many Israeli tech companies are staffed with ex-IDF intelligence officers - particularly from Unit 8200. CA parent company Strategic Communication Laboratories working with NATO, UK Ministry of Defence and US DoD to change audiences "attitudes and behaviour" and "help them withstand foreign propaganda effects". https://www.stratcomcoe.org/countering-propaganda-nato-spearheads-use-behavioural-change-science There was another article that I read today on this that I can't seem to find at the moment. It was either about Latvia or Estonia and SCL were involved in encouraging discord between ethnic Russians and natives in one of the aforementioned countries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest of Dean Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Here is the article I was talking about: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-20/ftc-said-to-be-probing-facebook-for-use-of-personal-data Five paragraph mentions exploiting or exacerbating ethnic tensions in Latvia for (attempted) political gain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Forest of Dean said: Here is the article I was talking about: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-20/ftc-said-to-be-probing-facebook-for-use-of-personal-data Five paragraph mentions exploiting or exacerbating ethnic tensions in Latvia for (attempted) political gain. I've no idea what you're on about. No mention of Latvia whatsoever. The last thing the West want is stirring up discord between ethnic Russians and Baltic natives, not sure if even Russia would want to kick off that shit storm at the moment. Edited March 21, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Maybe I'm missing something but I don't get all the hype about this Cambridge Analytica stuff. Haven't we already been here? I remember hearing about it after the US election. If the main story is the relationship with Facebook then that doesn't sound like news to me - I don't think anyone is surprised that their data is abused and sold to whoever wants to pay for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest of Dean Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 5 hours ago, welshbairn said: I've no idea what you're on about. No mention of Latvia whatsoever. The last thing the West want is stirring up discord between ethnic Russians and Baltic natives, not sure if even Russia would want to kick off that shit storm at the moment. Sorry wrong article linked (Bloomberg's multiple articles in one page format causing issues): https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-23/trump-data-gurus-leave-long-trail-of-subterfuge-dubious-dealing It isn't "the West" that ran this campaign but rather a local centre-right Latvian candidate. SCL seem to have lots of contracts and connections with NATO defence departments but were still a commercial company all the way through which proffered their services elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest of Dean Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 48 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: Maybe I'm missing something but I don't get all the hype about this Cambridge Analytica stuff. Haven't we already been here? I remember hearing about it after the US election. If the main story is the relationship with Facebook then that doesn't sound like news to me - I don't think anyone is surprised that their data is abused and sold to whoever wants to pay for it. CA's gathering of data in this way is extremely unorthodox and in fact Facebook has positioned itself as a "black box" where you can use Facebook's audience only in Facebook and only in the form presented to you by Facebook's platform - you do not get access to the raw data and you are not allowed to use tracking codes and apps to scrape all that data yourself. Also the apps they are using for this scrape such huge levels of data at once that make them vastly different from most other tracking codes used for advertising. It's more similar to a limited form of malware. What CA have done here is unique, immoral and also genius at the same time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netan Sansara Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Zetterlund said: Maybe I'm missing something but I don't get all the hype about this Cambridge Analytica stuff. Haven't we already been here? I remember hearing about it after the US election. If the main story is the relationship with Facebook then that doesn't sound like news to me - I don't think anyone is surprised that their data is abused and sold to whoever wants to pay for it. One of the big issues is the original survey they paid for covered only somewhere in the region of 270k users, which they then used to scrape data on up to 50 million of their pals. Doesn't help the cause that the chief exec was also video taped offering to honey trap political rivals with cocaine and hookers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Trump's porn star is fair winding up the deplorables on Twitter. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Trumps lawyer had his lawyer go on CNN last night to tell the world Trump want $20 million from her.Nothing happened between them though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Trump's porn star is fair winding up the deplorables on Twitter. American Patriot sounds like a bit of a rocket. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Trump was apparently briefed not to congratulate Putin, by his National Security advisor, did so regardless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Huge if true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Trump was apparently briefed not to congratulate Putin, by his National Security advisor, did so regardless. It would have been an awkward conversation otherwise tbf. " Hi Vlad, heard you're still President. Anyway, what's the weather like in Moscow, we're snowed in over here." Edited March 21, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainspotter Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Trump was apparently briefed Stormy Daniels apparently wasn't. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Stormy Daniels apparently wasn't. Never is in her 'day job ' either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 hours ago, welshbairn said: It would have been an awkward conversation otherwise tbf. " Not for Trump. He can talk for hours and say nothing meaningful whilst avoiding saying something specific. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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