Cerberus Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Someone getting fired I expect. My favorite reply however- 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 3 hours ago, mjw said: Clean coal. Really clean coal. This is an issue that Trump and all his conservative supporters can unite on. f**k the environment, f**k our children's future, let's ignore the science because it gets in the way of making a fast buck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39434413 Trump not getting money for his wall. All these Mexicans in Congress blocking it apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39434413 Trump not getting money for his wall. All these Mexicans in Congress blocking it apparently. For all Trump is a disaster, and most probably a crook, and definitely heinous; there are checks and balances. His insanity isn't going to be given free rein. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Thats his daughter Ivanka now on the government payroll #draintheswamp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Thats his daughter Ivanka now on the government payroll #draintheswamp Officially "unpaid" as First Daughter, but yeah, a ludicrous piece of nepotism, which nobody in the Democratic Party seems to be able to call him out for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: Officially "unpaid" as First Daughter, but yeah, a ludicrous piece of nepotism, which nobody in the Democratic Party seems to be able to call him out for. Aye that's terrible. It reminds me of a certain Mrs Windsor and her f**king family. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Trumpy tweeting about changing the libel laws because the ny times isnt saying nice things about him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, doulikefish said: Trumpy tweeting about changing the libel laws because the ny times isnt saying nice things about him And he's decided to take on the Tea Party. The 35% support he's got will start collapsing. Edited March 31, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The toys have been chucked. Blaming the Freedom Caucus for the failure of his health bill is not the best way to get future stuff passed. He probably won't get anything done now apart from some Executive Orders that will be backed out by the next person. I still don't think he cares. He's there to make some money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: LOCK HIM UP ! LOCK HIM UP ! LOCK HIM UP ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Flynn requesting immunity to testify. Oh dear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Flynn requesting immunity to testify. Oh dear. The same flynn who said prior to election that people seeking immunity have something to hide [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Let's be honest, this could be nothing or it could be huge. Best scenario he knows that he has done something wrong and if he doesn't make a deal he could be in deep shit if it is found out without his co-operation. If he is willing to implicate Trump or any of his gang in return for immunity it will be wonderful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Theres a good reason for John Podesta's 15 (fifteen) Cypriot bank accounts,aye?Draintheswamp. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Let's be honest, this could be nothing or it could be huge. Best scenario he knows that he has done something wrong and if he doesn't make a deal he could be in deep shit if it is found out without his co-operation. If he is willing to implicate Trump or any of his gang in return for immunity it will be wonderful. Flynn had meetings with a Turkish delegation. With him, he had a guest who was then acting as an adviser for the Trump campaign, James Woolsey, in the summer before the election. Discussed were plans to extradite a Turkish preacher and Flynn's suggestions of basically kidnapping him in the middle of the night were so disturbing to Woolsey (what he was proposing was blatantly illegal) that he reported it to the authorities and went public with this assertion. Several weeks after the election was won, another meeting was held. Woolsey was not part of (or had departed early on) the transition team so instead of him, somebody else was brought along - Devin Nunes (i.e. the head of the Russian investigation in the House of Representations). They may have been two completely different meetings and their is a chance that the second one was of a more routine nature but Flynn has got an atrocious record with these sorts of things. However, if this sort of plan was also proposed at the second meeting, it makes Nunes a partner in some part of a crime and that revelation could majorly compromise the Republican party as a whole (or at least their pissy investigation). The other party that Flynn could potentially implicate is Mike Pence who denied knowledge of knowing about his crimes and the investigation (which pretty much everybody is agreed on is a lie) but he never said anything under oath so it would be damaging to his reputation and raise further suspicion on his links (he was head of the transition) but ultimately wouldn't be enough alone to remove him. I can't see a scenario apart from Flynn and Manafort either being convicted or given immunity in exchange for others. The number of things on both of them is way too deep to get out of and the story about Flynn asking for immunity has been confirmed by his own lawyer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 The 'seeking immunity' line came from the usual 'unnamed official with knowledge of the matter'. It' doesn't make such a sensational headline when taken in context though. Quote Counsel to Lt. General Mike Flynn (Retired) ... Notwithstanding his life of national service, the media are awash with unfounded allegations, outrageous claims of treason, and vicious innuendo directed against him. He is now the target of unsubstantiated public demands by Members of Congress and other political critics that he be criminally investigated. No reasonable person, who has the benefit of advice from counsel, would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized, witch hunt environment without assurances against unfair prosecution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: The 'seeking immunity' line came from the usual 'unnamed official with knowledge of the matter'. It' doesn't make such a sensational headline when taken in context though. He's essentially taking the 5th, refusing to testify on the grounds it may incriminate himself. It sounds like the FBI have enough dirt on him not to need his testimony. Hope they do offer him immunity though, could make some great TV if he spills the beans to Congress. Edited March 31, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: The 'seeking immunity' line came from the usual 'unnamed official with knowledge of the matter'. It' doesn't make such a sensational headline when taken in context though. No. It come from his lawyer who said it in the letter you have quoted (the last line). It isn't an 'unnamed official with knowledge of the matter'. Seeking immunity means there is a fear of criminal prosecution for which one could be convicted of. He's a disgraced National Security Advisor who was just fired for a legally dubious pledge to Russia and then trying a cover up and officially lying to the VP. In the past, he's been fired from another administration and gained a reputation for constant lies and being untrustworthy. The time between this was spent taking money from foreign governments with particular issues and he has rushed legally to declare himself a 'foreign agent' during part of the transition a few weeks ago. There's a ridiculous amount on him at this stage and it's well beyond the stage of explaining away. It is more the fact that he's a fucking crook than it being some sort of witch hunt that means he needs legal protection. If you really think that the context makes this seem quite reasonable on his behalf, I have a Nigerian Prince who would like to have a word with you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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