TheProgressiveLiberal Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Swarley said: If he goes for the 2020 election would he win as an independent? Could he even do that? Who am I kidding he's the greatest President the US has ever seen he'll do whatever he bloody well wants He is popular with Republican voters. Zero chance any swamp / Wall St Republican candidate would come within a mile of him in the primary. If he wanted to run as an independent for some reason it would not be any trouble for someone of his stature to get ballot status in every state. It's a pain in the ass for the small parties we currently have. I think the Libertarians are usually the only part to do it. But that's just because they have very limited funds / volunteers to collect signatures. Not a problem Trump would have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 13 days getting classed as a 'few days' is pretty desperate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Do you think Ben Garrison has a bit of a hard spot for Trump? He loves drawing him as some big muscle bound hunk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I actually like looking over Ben Garrison's stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 It's astonishingly stupid stuff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Don't think I've laughed at an American cartoon since the Furry Freak Brothers. This Garrison bod is trying way too hard and is utterly humourless. Apparently he was fired up by pizzagate and other nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 4 hours ago, RiG said: Do you think Ben Garrison has a bit of a hard spot for Trump? He loves drawing him as some big muscle bound hunk. The way that is phrased just sums up everything wrong with it "The NFL has decided that it will not force players to stand for the playing of our National Anthem. " 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Think we have a new entry for Jetiest Jets fan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 What's more disrespectful, refusing to stand for the U. S. anthem or being U.S. President and continually lying and demeaning that office? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: What's more disrespectful, refusing to stand for the U. S. anthem or being U.S. President and continually lying and demeaning that office? I'd say refusing to stand and the Obama Presidency are about equal in disrespecting America. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 31 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: I'd say refusing to stand and the Obama Presidency are about equal in disrespecting America. You're a screwball though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabdownunder Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Whats worse; (a)not phoning the families of dead soldiers or (b) phoning them and telling them "he knew what he signed up for"? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I'd say refusing to stand and the Obama Presidency are about equal in disrespecting America. Flags should never touch the ground or be used for parking your arse on. Think these Trump not standing and your hatred of a democratic black president Swampy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The NFL couldn’t enforce them to stand.That would be challenged in court the very next day.I can’t understand anyone who is pro 1st amendment not liking people kneeling during the national anthem.Unless it’s crazy racism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 46 minutes ago, Cerberus said: The NFL couldn’t enforce them to stand. That would be challenged in court the very next day. I can’t understand anyone who is pro 1st amendment not liking people kneeling during the national anthem. Unless it’s crazy racism. The NFL fines people for writing messages on their cleats or eye black. They famously prevented Tim Tebow from writing John 3:16 on his eye black as he did in college. There is zero first amendment right to use your employers platform to disseminate your speech. Again, if someone held up a "God Hates F***" sign during the national anthem they would be fired immediately. I'm on the side that corporate America should allow offensive speech, but most people aren't. And this includes almost the entire left half of the political spectrum in America. Most people fired for speech at work are fired for speech that would be considered right wing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: How the f**k is that even remotely relevant in comparison to people making a choice to NOT say something. Once again, you are a shockingly bad troll and should be emptied from this site immediately. Legally, they are the same. If the first amendment covers one, as Cerebus says, it covers the other. Of course the first amendment covers neither. There are certain reasons where the law prevents you from being fired. Speech is not one. If your employment contract specifies other reasons you can't be fired, the courts will protect you. The collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and the players union does not protect speech. You are correct that they are different from a moral perspective. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The NBA has a rule which forces players to stand for the anthem, for what it's worth. When I was a kid Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf of the Denver Nuggets refused to stand. He was suspended and fined. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 "They'll tell you they're not heroes. They'll say they were just doing their job. And today we honor them as top cops because they are half right. It's true they were just doing their jobs. From the moment they swore an oath to serve with honor, from the first time they put on a uniform and put on a badge, they knew they might be called upon to do some really tough stuff. But I think that makes them more heroic, not less heroic, because they signed up for this." Barack Obama http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/obama-praises-hero-nypd-girlfriend-ceremony-article-1.1341515 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 “But I think that makes them more heroic, not less heroic, because they signed up for this,” Obama said. “They volunteered.”Doesn't look so bad when you get the benefit of seeing his quote in full. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, mjw said: “But I think that makes them more heroic, not less heroic, because they signed up for this,” Obama said. “They volunteered.” Doesn't look so bad when you get the benefit of seeing his quote in full. Didn't mean it to look bad. "They signed up for this" is a common way of saying that somebody like a soldier or firefighter was brave. If Trump did say it to this lady I can't imagine he meant it any other way, and I can't imagine you could take it any other way unless you were trying to be offended. Does anybody really think he called up the pregnant widow of a dead soldier and was rude to her because she's black? It's a laughable opinion to hold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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