Hong Kong Phooey Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, F_T_Y said: Funny if neilston won the replay. Great input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F_T_Y Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc57 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 hour ago, F_T_Y said: Funny if neilston won the replay. Why would it be? Vast majority will be hoping The Gow prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobey dosser Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 No refs report -why 2 "unnamed" witnesses -who No representation from the Gow - why The SJFA kangaroo court at it's best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRICEY Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Correct me if I'm wrong,but nothing to do with SJFA?.This would be down to Big Scotts crazy gang,the West of Scotland JFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky9 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 If this was one of the bigger junior clubs do you think the game would of been replayed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRICEY Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 If this was one of the bigger junior clubs do you think the game would of been replayed Depends on what team and who's on the management committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewsy14 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Under their own rules, they can't make any decision without the referees report, as their rules state that referees report is the only evidence they will accept! i.e. If it isn't in the report, it didn't happen! So surely the grounds for appeal would be around that part of the ruling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertha/BJFC1938 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 The only person to blame is the match ref who couldn't count to 90 minutes , it's not the Beaks fault , lesmahagow or neilstons fault it's the match officials fault and its a horrendous error on his part , officials will always make mistakes during games and its to be fully expected , however to be incapable of playing 90 minutes is unpardonable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F_T_Y Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 What an all round farce, sums up the west region sjfa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowlad Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 A game should only be replayed if it's abandoned this game was not abandoned. Neilston should be sent back up to play the last 10 mins a disgraceful decision from Scott Robertson and his cronies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THECABBAGE Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 16 hours ago, stewsy14 said: Under their own rules, they can't make any decision without the referees report, as their rules state that referees report is the only evidence they will accept! i.e. If it isn't in the report, it didn't happen! So surely the grounds for appeal would be around that part of the ruling? Fair comment no refs report how can they possibly make a fair decision. When I left the game I thought Neilston showed bad sportsmanship, I'm sure if they were winning 3-1 they would have had the players back out. I would also have liked to have see the Gow put an appeal in. The other point I would make if the Gow were asked to go back out there committee would have told Rab to get on with it regardless of what the result was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ilford Drummer Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 There is NO WAY this would happen without the refs report, who stated that? and can they prove it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THECABBAGE Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 13 minutes ago, The Ilford Drummer said: There is NO WAY this would happen without the refs report, who stated that? and can they prove it? Its been in the local papers & I also read it in the Sun yesterday. Rab saying the decision was made without a refs report. I take it the Gow must have asked to see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewsy15 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Teams can access the refs report on the SJFA extranet site, then they'll know whether he reported it or not! If he didn't, then by their own rules there is no case to answer! Ergo the result would stand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, THECABBAGE said: Its been in the local papers & I also read it in the Sun yesterday. Rab saying the decision was made without a refs report. I take it the Gow must have asked to see it? it's been in the local papers?? quality source. We know how pedantic things can get about paperwork and procedures etc being followed properly, I find it impossible to believe they would leave themselves open on this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertha/BJFC1938 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, THECABBAGE said: Its been in the local papers & I also read it in the Sun yesterday. Rab saying the decision was made without a refs report. I take it the Gow must have asked to see it? It must be true if you read it in the sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montherovers Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I've had a look at the Laws of the game and the International Boards guidance for referees and from this I dont think the game should be replayed. The Laws say that the referee is the timekeeper and that all his decisions regarding the facts of the match are final. So if the ref says time is up then time is up even if everyone knows 45 minutes haven't been played. The Laws also state that a referee may change a decision he realises was incorrect unless he has already restarted the game or the match has ended. Neilston were probably right not to come back out as the ref was in the wrong to try to restart a game he has called full time on. The only bit in the referees guidance I think is relevant is that the referee cannot compensate for a timekeeping error in the first half by altering the duration of the second half. So if he only played 36 minutes in the first half there would still only be 45 in the second giving a total of 81 the same as in this game. This must constitute a valid game otherwise it should say that as soon as a referee realises he didn't play the full 45 mins in the first half the game should be abandoned because the losing team is going to want it replayed anyway. Unless the association has a bye law dealing with this specific situation I think the Laws suggest the result should stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky55 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Massive mistake by the official, but the result should stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitburn exile Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 its one of those situations where if it our team being beat you would want the replay but not if you are winning. Did the red realise before Neilston went to the changing room or did they scarper straight away? also folk saying without refs report their own rules say cant do anything does anyone have a copy of where it says that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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