accies1874 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 The same Jai Quitongo who was released by Hamilton and Aberdeen in recent years. He seems to have found a wee bit of form this season but I don't expect him to become anything great. Hardie & McBurnie are much better IMO. Quintogo chose to leave Accies, as he wanted to go to Aberdeen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberdeen21 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I've watched plenty development football over the past few years and can honestly say Quitongo must have really improved since last year to suddenly think he's good enough for the under 21s. I've not saw him much this season at all but it seems just because a bid came in from Doncaster he is suddenly a superstar. Hardie is a better player and someone I've saw progress for a number of years. At the moment he is in a poor St Mirren team but from what I've saw he is much better. For the person saying he's better than most 19 year olds at premiership clubs is laughable. I could name plenty playing in the under 20s league who are head and shoulders above him with far more potential. We will see what happens but I don't see the boy really going on to bigger and better things in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Gemmill Out? Apropos of nothing, Scott Gemmill was an utterly horrendous player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 46 minutes ago, Aberdeen21 said: I've watched plenty development football over the past few years and can honestly say Quitongo must have really improved since last year to suddenly think he's good enough for the under 21s. I've not saw him much this season at all but it seems just because a bid came in from Doncaster he is suddenly a superstar. Hardie is a better player and someone I've saw progress for a number of years. At the moment he is in a poor St Mirren team but from what I've saw he is much better. For the person saying he's better than most 19 year olds at premiership clubs is laughable. I could name plenty playing in the under 20s league who are head and shoulders above him with far more potential. We will see what happens but I don't see the boy really going on to bigger and better things in the long term. I'm not saying Quitongo is definitely going to go onto better things (just as I'm not saying that he's definitely good enough for Scotland u21s), but he's a player who has caused real problems for Championship and Premiership defences this season. Most of those playing at u20 level right now won't do that at any point in their career. He's not suddenly being cast as some superstar because there was a bid from Doncaster, it's because he has put in some really cracking performances this season, especially in the cup. He's strong, quick, and has scored some very good goals. Very raw around the edges - there will certainly be players out there with a better touch (Scullion for one), but he looks like the type of player with the attributes to go onto have a very good career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Aberdeen21 said: I've watched plenty development football over the past few years and can honestly say Quitongo must have really improved since last year to suddenly think he's good enough for the under 21s. I've not saw him much this season at all but it seems just because a bid came in from Doncaster he is suddenly a superstar. Hardie is a better player and someone I've saw progress for a number of years. At the moment he is in a poor St Mirren team but from what I've saw he is much better. For the person saying he's better than most 19 year olds at premiership clubs is laughable. I could name plenty playing in the under 20s league who are head and shoulders above him with far more potential. We will see what happens but I don't see the boy really going on to bigger and better things in the long term. Was he playing as a winger when you were watching him? I ask as he appeared to have nothing about him at all in his first team appearances on the wing for us, but as soon as he moved to centre forward he started cracking half volleys into the top corner at will while 9ft brick shithouse centre backs bounce off him. That said, I don't really think it's scandalous that he isn't in the under 21s - the problem isn't so much that Quitongo isn't there rather than many who are there being called up because of the size of their clubs or baseless media hype having done nothing in competitive football. Despite current form he shouldn't necessarily be ahead of someone like Hardie who played well at the same level Quitongo has started well at for half a season, but he should certainly be ahead of a player who has looked utterly hopeless at first team level to date like Craig Wighton. If all the players ahead of him were playing and contributing for their clubs there'd be few complaints considering he's only just broken into first team football himself, but when the likes of Wighton can get a game some frustration is understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 You've done it now. Any minute you'll get a raft of Dundee fans telling the world about how great Wighton is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 quitongo looked a cracking player when morton pumped us in the cup. although it was against us..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 U21s | Full-time result: FYR Macedonia 2 - 0 Scotland. Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Gemmil's not long for this world, is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Finished next to bottom of the group with just eight points. Macedonia qualified for a finals for the first time at any level, one point ahead of France. #nextgeneration #itstime (for Macedonia, anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I'm glad we replaced Ricky Sbragia with Scott Gemmill, who was mentored by Ricky Sbragia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I'm glad we replaced Ricky Sbragia with Scott Gemmill, who was mentored by Ricky Sbragia. And replaced Scott Gemmill with, erm, Ricky Sbragia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Looks like yet another week in which 'Rangers loanee' Ryan Hardie hammered home his right to ninety minutes as an Under 21 cap by, erm, stinking the place out as a crap striker in the worst team in the Scottish Championship: as opposed to Jai Quitongo who once again totally ran the show for a much, much better side in the same division. I for one hope that Quitongo ditches Scotland in contempt very soon and commits to Portugal instead. Having the likes of Scott Gemmill and Rickie Sbragia play a shit version of Football Manager - selecting utter dung just because of their Celtic or Sevco contracts - is sufficient grounds to snub that type of international contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senator Frimpton Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Surely the point of the u21s is to instill a winning mentality they can then bring to the senior side? This should mean picking the best/on formest players available. Players like Craig Sibbald, baller supreme and soon to be hall of famer at the age of 21. Rather than capping anyone eligible after a couple of decent games to give them experience of nothing more than getting chucked about for 90 minutes The sooner the 21s get taken seriously instead of a boys jolly the sooner we'll see improvement at all levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum-ayr Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Alan Forrest 7 in 13 so far this season for a player who isn't an out and out striker. Not saying he would be fantastic, but a young player in form, surely got to be better than the likes of Hardie who are in because of who they play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Jag Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzohiggy Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 On Friday, October 07, 2016 at 20:12, cowboy said: quitongo looked a cracking player when morton pumped us in the cup. although it was against us..... Beat me to it. I'd say he's one of the best players I've seen at RP this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Checked the lineup, hardly knew any of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wren Road Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Wouldn' read much into that result. Read an article last week, Scotland picked a squad of players born in 1996 against Slovakia or whoever it was who are in the euros next year and had a squad born in1994. Scotland are basically blooming a squad for the next campaign now, and two years at that age away to a decent side is massive they were always going to get pumped the result was immaterial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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