WILLIEA Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 What Granny says, but also the major EU economies are doing pretty well whereas the UK is tanking at an ever increasing rate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I can imagine future UK governments trying to worm their way back into the EU in future, even if by the back door. Hopefully they're given a sturdy "f**k off". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 EU stating they're in no mood to be moving negotiations on while in deadlock.The absolute state of the UK in these negotiations.It's gonna be a 'no deal'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, GTG_03 said: EU stating they're in no mood to be moving negotiations on while in deadlock. The absolute state of the UK in these negotiations. It's gonna be a 'no deal'. The EU's position has been made crystal clear on their red lines and the need to have the issues resolved prior to any discussion on new trade terms. Maybe someone needs to tattoo it on David Davis' head before he gets the message. The level of deception by the UK government on the 'progress' of these talks is Trump like. The media should be holding them to account and exposing the increasing likelihood of the 'No Deal' scenario coming to pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 The problem is those who are doing the negotiating for the UK don't believe a "no deal" is a bad scenario. They live in a fantasy land of the great British Empire and can't wait till they return to those days. Here in the real world the EU and everyone else are gobsmacked at the complete lunacy and thinking of the UK government. Who knows where and how this will end? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 36 minutes ago, Colkitto said: The problem is those who are doing the negotiating for the UK don't believe a "no deal" is a bad scenario. They live in a fantasy land of the great British Empire and can't wait till they return to those days. Here in the real world the EU and everyone else are gobsmacked at the complete lunacy and thinking of the UK government. Who knows where and how this will end? I'm hopeful that there is enough pressure put on the current government by their MP's, supporters and opposition to avoid a "no deal" at all costs. Can we retract Article 50 before 2019? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 19 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Here's simple fact that the Brexiteers either don't understand or are determined to ignore. The other EU countries are heavily committed to the concept; they want to strengthen it including an EU defence force. Regardless of what they say it is absolutely essential that Brexit is a disaster for the UK, a successful Brexit could be the death knell of the EU and would be a huge encouragement to anti-EU opposition leaders in all the other countries. The existing pro-EU governments will not let that happen. Though they may wish to mitigate the worst effects for their own respective economies, the political leaders of these countries will accept a reasonably high level of pain as they will view the longer term goals as more important. So what you're saying is that the EU and its constituent members are only concerned with the best possible outcome for them rather than a soon to be former member? This doesn't seem right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Colkitto said: The problem is those who are doing the negotiating for the UK don't believe a "no deal" is a bad scenario. They live in a fantasy land of the great British Empire and can't wait till they return to those days. Here in the real world the EU and everyone else are gobsmacked at the complete lunacy and thinking of the UK government. Who knows where and how this will end? There may be some who think like this but there are many more who can appreciate the real world implications. Sadly they've painted themselves into a political corner and there's no easy way out. 1 hour ago, zidane's child said: I'm hopeful that there is enough pressure put on the current government by their MP's, supporters and opposition to avoid a "no deal" at all costs. Can we retract Article 50 before 2019? I'd like to see a reversal or at least a second Referendum. Sadly there's little chance of this from the Government OR from the main opposition. 1 hour ago, Miguel Sanchez said: So what you're saying is that the EU and its constituent members are only concerned with the best possible outcome for them rather than a soon to be former member? This doesn't seem right. I know bruv! Political correctness gone mad init. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 £ taking another tanking. FFS! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 hours ago, zidane's child said: I'm hopeful that there is enough pressure put on the current government by their MP's, supporters and opposition to avoid a "no deal" at all costs. Can we retract Article 50 before 2019? I think the prospect of no deal is being used to ensure we don't leave the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 You really couldnt make it up. Angus MP who couldn’t decide on Brexit accuses SNP MEPs of trying to block ithttps://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/uk-politics/523625/angus-mp-couldnt-decide-brexit-accuses-snp-meps-trying-block/ She's a complete fucking airhead. A trust fund Tory in her position purely due to her extremely rich landowning family. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Theresa May refuses to say that EU citizens rights will be guaranteed in the event of no deal. The number of people supporting that stance on Twitter is thoroughly depressing. We're a nation of sociopaths. The irony is some of them will be expats living in the Costas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 BBC desperately trying to spin some good (as in pro government) news by suggesting the other EU countries have begun looking at a post-Brexit trade agreement with the UK, albeit that it is an internal document! Talk about clutching at straws. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 BBC desperately trying to spin some good (as in pro government) news by suggesting the other EU countries have begun looking at a post-Brexit trade agreement with the UK, albeit that it is an internal document! Talk about clutching at straws. 16 months after the referendum and there are suggestions that the EU have begun to look at how they’re going to react?Clearly the EU are panicking because they know the Brexit bulldog holds all the cards 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 16 months after the referendum and there are suggestions that the EU have begun to look at how they’re going to react?Clearly the EU are panicking because they know the Brexit bulldog holds all the cards German cars and all that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Jesus. Even Hammond, an apparent moderate and (for a Tory) reasonably level-headed remainer, is now calling the EU 'the enemy'. It's horrendous how easy it is for normal people to step into the lunatic world of the rabid right-winger in a desperate attempt to appease the f*ckwits that follow the Daily Express and Daily Heil. These detestable Tory c*nts are ruining the country forever. Time for revolution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Jesus. Even Hammond, an apparent moderate and (for a Tory) reasonably level-headed remainer, is now calling the EU 'the enemy'. It's horrendous how easy it is for normal people to step into the lunatic world of the rabid right-winger in a desperate attempt to appease the f*ckwits that follow the Daily Express and Daily Heil. These detestable Tory c*nts are ruining the country forever. Time for revolution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 A grim prognosis of no-deal Brexit. Or good news if you never want to holiday in Europe again, want the Norn Irish shooting each other again and hate the taste of fresh fruit and veg... Give us Indyref2 before this shoight unfolds. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/15/grim-reality-of-bad-tempered-brexit?CMP=share_btn_tw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, Crùbag said: A grim prognosis of no-deal Brexit. Or good news if you never want to holiday in Europe again, want the Norn Irish shooting each other again and hate the taste of fresh fruit and veg... Give us Indyref2 before this shoight unfolds. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/15/grim-reality-of-bad-tempered-brexit?CMP=share_btn_tw A second EU referendum is politically more feasible, more winnable and, arguably, more justifiable. I'm not against a second Indy ref and think it can be justified on the stance of the last Scottish Parliament election results, but think winning that argument in the wider arena may be more difficult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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