McSpreader Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 8 hours ago, NotThePars said: I have a great many reservations about the Labour Party and find large swathes of the party repulsive but Corbyn ran a great campaign and I believe in him as much as I've believed in any politician ever. I bought into the indyref project more than any SNP politician and until another referendum is launched I'm likely done supporting the SNP barring the melts in the PLP reestablishing control. The SNP are Labour Lite and the bribes they are paying from taxpayers money to keep their voters on board until indy will be clawed back if they ever succeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 8 hours ago, NotThePars said: I have a great many reservations about the Labour Party and find large swathes of the party repulsive but Corbyn ran a great campaign and I believe in him as much as I've believed in any politician ever. I bought into the indyref project more than any SNP politician and until another referendum is launched I'm likely done supporting the SNP barring the melts in the PLP reestablishing control. I like Corbyn far more than his party and its careerists. Still, I've never been able to understand his strange attitude towards the UK state. On the one hand, he has stated his belief that NI should leave the UK; on the other, he believes that Scotland absolutely should not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I like Corbyn far more than his party and its careerists. Still, I've never been able to understand his strange attitude towards the UK state. On the one hand, he has stated his belief that NI should leave the UK; on the other, he believes that Scotland absolutely should not. I think there's a lot of people with good politics and with a lot of good analysis who lose the heid when it comes to discussing Scottish independence. Or maybe there's a curse at the heart of the Labour Party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 An important point that needs reiterating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 The Europeans are going to run rings around these clowns. Could be a good or bad thing really. If the Brits realise how much they're being bitched about, take a huffy and flounce off without a deal, we're in trouble. If Europe can serve up a nice soft Brexit and wave it about making plane noises until Davis and co swallow it, I'll take it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I'm praying for a softy brexit and we can let the brexitors moan a wee bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40332912 The government must secure a transitional Brexit deal to protect the future of the UK car industry, a trade group has said. I expect there's quite a few industries that would like a bit of protection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I just have this idea of David Davis constantly saying "Oh, I hadn't thought about that" and in a few months time saying "Hey Guys, maybe we shouldn't leave." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Antlion said: I like Corbyn far more than his party and its careerists. Still, I've never been able to understand his strange attitude towards the UK state. On the one hand, he has stated his belief that NI should leave the UK; on the other, he believes that Scotland absolutely should not. No Labour MPs in NI (and there never will be, either). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baxter Parp Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Jon SnowVerified account @jonsnowC4 2h2 hours ago Its Official: Bank of England Governor tells the City: Brexit has made us poorer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 36 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Jon SnowVerified account @jonsnowC4 2h2 hours ago Its Official: Bank of England Governor tells the City: Brexit has made us poorer. Couldn't resist it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Couldn't resist it. Wid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 14 hours ago, kilbowie2002 said: Did I mention he required to be briefed on what the EU actually does? The man is a fucking moron. Is this true? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 What happened to "They need us more than we need them" ? This is going to be a mess for the UK isn't it? I can see the Tories throwing an election hoping they lose so they can blame Jeremy... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Colkitto said: What happened to "They need us more than we need them" ? This is going to be a mess for the UK isn't it? I can see the Tories throwing an election hoping they lose so they can blame Jeremy... Beermonkey's one step ahead of you there. Even the one we've just had was actually an attempt to stop Brexit. #chemtrails 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, kilbowie2002 said: yes my friend has a family member who works in the brexit department, he genuinely had no clue as to how the EU worked and a group of civil servants had to brief him. Scary! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, kilbowie2002 said: Jon Sand Jon Targaryen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: No Labour MPs in NI (and there never will be, either). Think it goes deeper than that given there were three NI MPs that could be depended on to take the Labour whip on anything important up until June 8th. A lot of Labour lefties view the island of Ireland in very simplistic terms because they see it as having been a colony rather than an integral part of the UK, so even though Labour's welfare state policies would have benefited the Irish working class a lot more than de Valera and Fianna Fail's ever did that's pretty much the last thing you are ever going to hear a Corbynite argue as they would sooner virtue signal about their willingness to be anti-colonialist than push the virtues of having a good dose of democratic socialism implemented right across the British Isles. Edited June 20, 2017 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Aye, that's probably got something to do with it, too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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