LoonsYouthTeam Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Got to admit this cup has won me over a bit. 3 wins when we'd usually be lucky to get 1 and now the prospect of a trip to England, Wales or Norn Ireland for something a bit different. Who do we all want in the next round? Alloa Athletic Dunfermline Dundee Utd Falkirk Forfar Athletic St Mirren Queen of the South Queen's Park Stranraer Livingston Ayr United or Airdrieonians Turriff United or Hibernian The New Saints Bala Town Linfield Crusaders Has to be Bala Town away for me. Actually in Wales unlike TNS and would be a cracking trip. Is it a winnable game? No idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, LoonsYouthTeam said: Got to admit this cup has won me over a bit. 3 wins when we'd usually be lucky to get 1 and now the prospect of a trip to England Who might you be playing in England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoonsYouthTeam Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share Posted September 3, 2016 Who might you be playing in England? The New Saints play in a place in Shropshire rather than Wales, pretty much on the border. The Welsh league equivalent of Berwick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just now, LoonsYouthTeam said: The New Saints play in a place in Shropshire rather than Wales, pretty much on the border. The Welsh league equivalent of Berwick Fair play, just looked that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoonsYouthTeam Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share Posted September 3, 2016 Fair play, just looked that up. Aye, a bit disappointing. I wanted to be dancing in the streets of Total Network Solutions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 12 minutes ago, LoonsYouthTeam said: Has to be Bala Town away for me. Actually in Wales unlike TNS and would be a cracking trip. Is it a winnable game? No idea! A town of less than 2,000 people in the middle of nowhere? Some trip! Belfast is the prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, LoonsYouthTeam said: The New Saints play in a place in Shropshire rather than Wales, pretty much on the border. The Welsh league equivalent of Berwick Would have been funny if Berwick had got through and played TNS. Two English based sides playing under the guise of Scottish and Welsh sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 The thing is, i know Shropshire pretty well, I have relatives in Ludlow and have been to Shrewsbury and Telford. Just didn't know TNS played in Oswestry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylivi1 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 The two Welsh teams struggle to muster 500 fans between them, I fail to see how they bring anything to this competition, introducing these teams from Wales and Ireland is simply under valuing the Scottish game by Doncaster and his cronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 From what I've seen 1 Welsh club will be drawn at home & 1 away, same for Northern Irish and all 4 will be kept apart. Welsh club (presumably the home one) will play Sat teatime on S4C. If you were comparing leagues the Northern Irish is stronger than the Welsh... but TNS is such a dominant force (and the only full-time team in either IIRC?) that they are perhaps the strongest of the quartet. What all these clubs do have is European experience. Linfield has played in Europe for the last 13 seasons running, but never beaten anyone except Faroese teams. Crusaders the last 6 seasons running, only beaten clubs from Estonia and Lithuania. TNS the last 18 seasons running, only beaten teams from Eire, Faroes and San Marino - and Cliftonville 2-1 in 2011-12. Bala by far the least exposed with only the last 2 seasons running and no wins. So while they clearly lack in quality, they have the benefits of consistent "international experience". Crowds (2015-16):Linfield - 2,304 Crusaders - 1,532 TNS - 375 Bala - 281 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Hopefully Bala Town win the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 No Scottish club has ever lost to Welsh opposition, and only once to Northern Irish opposition and that was over 45yrs ago.International Soccer League 1960, GroupstageKilmarnock 2-0 GlenavonFairs Cup 1963-64, First RoundPartick Thistle 7-1 Glentoran (3-0, 4-1)Cup-Winners' Cup 1966-67, First RoundRangers 5-1 Glentoran (1-1, 4-1)Fairs Cup 1970-71, First RoundColeraine 4-3 Kilmarnock (3-2, 1-1)Texaco Cup 1971-72, Second RoundAirdrieonians 7-3 Ballymena Utd (3-0, 4-3)UEFA Cup 1987-88, First RoundDundee Utd 4-1 Coleraine (3-1, 1-0)UEFA Cup 1989-90, First RoundDundee Utd 5-1 Glentoran (2-0, 3-1)UEFA Cup 1996-97, First RoundAberdeen 6-4 Barry Town (3-1, 3-3)UEFA Cup 1997-97, Second Qualifying RoundCeltic 8-0 Inter Cable Tel (5-0, 3-0)UEFA Cup 1999-00, Qualifying RoundCeltic 10-0 Cwmbran Town (6-0, 4-0)UEFA Cup 2001-02, Qualifying RoundKilmarnock 2-0 Glenavon (1-0, 1-0)Europa League 2009-10, First Qualifying RoundMotherwell 3-1 Llanelli (0-1, 3-0)Champions League 2013-14, Second Qualifying RoundCeltic 5-0 Cliftonville (2-0, 3-0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattmc Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Having seen a bit of Northern Irish football over the last few seasons I don't think Scottish Clubs have anything to fear. Logistically easier to get to Belfast from Stranraer than most Scottish clubs, add to that it's great city for beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogs_Dollox Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Anyone we will wipe the floor with the fuckin lot of yous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 What dates are these ties played? Hoping for a trip to Wales or Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattmc Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 What dates are these ties played? Hoping for a trip to Wales or Ireland Think it's to be the next international weekend. The Saturday being the 8th. Scotland at home that day so hopefully Sunday games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Fourth round - Saturday/Sunday October 8/9, 2016 http://spfl.co.uk/challenge-cup/dates/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, Mattmc said: Think it's to be the next international weekend. The Saturday being the 8th. Scotland at home that day so hopefully Sunday games. Possibly the cross-border games will be Saturday to help with travel? Also potentially 3 of 8 will be televised - as I noted S4C have already announced a Welsh tie for the Saturday, at 5:15pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattmc Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Possibly the cross-border games will be Saturday to help with travel? Also potentially 3 of 8 will be televised - as I noted S4C have already announced a Welsh tie for the Saturday, at 5:15pm. Not ideal. Annoys me when club football clashes with international. I get its not everyone's cup of tea but, who do they thing goes and watches the national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 They've scheduled the Challenge Cup on international weekends for years now in an effort to make use of the weekend without putting league games on. (Although they've always played league games on the March dates and recently started doing that in October - but not this season - and November). I think it makes sense in many respects. Scotland seldom plays Saturday nowadays. Interestingly the Welsh and Northern Irish authorities issued full cards for October and have had to cancel games... Linfield also cancelled their league game this weekend to play Rangers in a friendly!... As a result Ballymena v Linfield and Glenavon v Crusaders will be off. Aberystwyth v Bala and Rhyl v TNS are already now the following Tuesday. Unless they have made a double cock-up this implies to me they don't expect Challenge Cup ties involving their clubs to be played on the Sunday as that would entail cancelling them again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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