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It does look like we're due for the European results to start improving.

Unfortunately, I can't help but feel that one club will take the credit, even if they haven't qualified yet  :rolleyes:

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Just found this article :(.....the one I tend to recall and which really hurt at the time was Dunfermline against Hafnarfjörður although was suprised at how long ago it actually happened:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/3596614.stm

Scottish teams in Europe: Five of the worst results

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By Richard Wilson

BBC Scotland

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On Tuesday, Celtic suffered their heaviest ever defeat in European competition, going down 7-0 to Barcelona in the Champions League.

It is not the only time a Scottish club have suffered a tough loss in Europe.

Here are five other results that Scottish clubs are less than proud of.

Hibernian 0-7 Malmo (agg 0-9), 2013

Pat Fenlon (right)
Pat Fenlon (right) suffered a heavy defeat in Europe with Hibs

Pat Fenlon never truly recovered from this Europa League qualifying defeat - the highest aggregate loss that a Scottish side has suffered in Europe.

The Easter Road manager had hoped to turn around a 2-0 away-leg defeat when the teams met in Edinburgh, but the Swedes were four goals ahead by half-time.

A further three goals after the break sealed a miserable night for a Hibs team that included the likes of James McPake, Kevin Thomson, Lewis Stevenson, Liam Craig and Paul Hanlon.

"I'm embarrassed more than anything else," Fenlon said afterwards. "I apologise to the supporters."

Aberdeen 1-5 Sigma Olomouc (agg 1-8), 2009

Lee Miller (right) for Aberdeen against Sigma Olomouc
Mark McGhee's first matches in charge of Aberdeen ended in an 8-1 aggregate defeat

Mark McGhee's side suffered a 5-1 defeat in the home leg of the Europa League qualifier against the Czech Republic side, which was the Dons' worst ever European result.

It was McGhee's first Pittodrie match in charge of the club, but turned into a dispiriting night.

He hoped for a more resolute display in the second leg, but three goals were conceded and it would have been worse had goalkeeper Jamie Langfield not saved a spot-kick.

"It's not nice being part of that defeat," said striker Chris Maguire. "People will look back for years to come and my name is going to be on that teamsheet."

Vaduz 2-0 Falkirk (agg 2-1), 2009

Tam Scobbie (left), Carl Finnigan (centre) and Brian McLean
Tam Scobbie (left), Carl Finnigan (centre) and Brian McLean show their dejection as Falkirk crash out

Eddie's May young, inexperienced side were facing the only professional club in Liechtenstein in what was also Falkirk's first ever European tie.

A 1-0 win in the first leg of the Europa League qualifier had provided Falkirk with something to protect, but Emil Noll's goal took the tie to extra-time, and Franz Burgmeier scored the winning goal in the 105th minute.

Vaduz were coached by German World Cup winner Pierre Littbarski, but the expectation had still been that the Scottish side would overcome a team from the principality of Liechtenstein, which is 25km long and has a population of around 37,000 - the same as the town of Airdrie.

FBK Kaunas 2-1 Rangers (agg 2-1), 2008

Christian Dailly (right) cannot watch as Kaunas celebrate their shock victory over Rangers
Christian Dailly (right) cannot watch as Kaunas celebrate their shock victory over Rangers

The season after Rangers reached the Uefa Cup final in Manchester, Walter Smith's side were knocked out of the Champions League second qualifying round before their domestic campaign had even begun.

A Kaunas side containing Marian Kello, Adrian Mrowiec and Linas Pilibaitis - who all had spells at Hearts - fell behind to Kevin Thomson's goal, but struck back to win through Nerijus Radzius and Pilibaitis.

"It's difficult to explain what went wrong," said Smith. "It was one of those games - we never felt comfortable at any stage. Everyone involved with the club is extremely disappointed."

Artmedia Bratislava 5-0 Celtic, 2005

Celtic fan in Bratislava
Celtic fans found the 5-0 defeat in Bratislava tough to watch

Gordon Strachan's first competitive game in charge since succeeding Martin O'Neill as Celtic manager became, in his own words, "out-and-out the worst football night I have ever had".

The remnants of O'Neill's team were still in place, with Stan Varga, Bobo Balde, Neil Lennon, Stiliyan Petrov, Alan Thompson, John Hartson and Chris Sutton all starting the game in Slovakia, but Juraj Halenar's hat-trick and goals for Blazej Vascak and Martin Mikulic secured a result that left Strachan "in shock".

Celtic rallied in the second leg, but their 4-0 win at Celtic Park was not enough to keep them in the Champions League qualifying rounds.

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Seen that last week when the BBC were sharing it on twitter.

Would not have the Falkirk result in there. Vaduz might be in Liechtenstein but they play in the Swiss league and spend several multiples of what Falkirk do. Had it been a similar sized Swiss team like Thun, Lugano or Aarau then it wouldn't have been viewed as a shock result.

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Journalists cite Vaduz beating Falkirk all the time but it's simply an illustration of their ignorance. Vaduz had finished 10th in the Swiss Superleague - Falkirk had finished 10th in SPL. Both leagues were - arguably are - of similar strengths, but of course Vaduz play in Europe almost every season with all the experience that brings whereas Falkirk were making their debut. Over the years Vaduz have beaten teams from other decent countries like Hungary and Serbia, and obviously lots of Swiss teams domestically.

Even if you thought Liechtenstein had a weak league of its own then a few other results - Coleraine beating Kilmarnock, Alashkert of Armenia beating St Johnstone, Motherwell losing to St Jarnan of Iceland and Dunfermline losing to Hadnafjordur of Iceland - would arguably be worse results anyway.

If you're going down the line of thrashings then Rangers 4-12 Eintracht Frankfurt (1-6, 6-3) way back in 1959-60 should also be right up there.

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