maicoman Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 The clubs that are playing in it will make a few hundred £ while the ones that are not playing will have their players in for training so would rather that my team were playing in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertha/BJFC1938 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 If we had a 16 team top league I would gladly see the end of it to accommodate 16 teams in the league , until then and while it's here then I would love to see us win it , it's far removed from what it once was but remember down at Troon a few years ago when Cumnock beat us on penalties after it went a full round of players hitting pens and was gutted to lose , at no point did I leave Portland park shrugging the shoulders saying it was only a wee diddy cup anyway, would be the same this year if we lost the final , have yet to taste diddy whisky out of any trophy so there's no diddy cups for me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ilford Drummer Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 4 hours ago, clash city rocker said: Bursting their baws cotter really ? Swifty Kilbirnie ' we have used league cup as part of our pre season ' . Chris Strain jnr Kilwinning ' with all due respect to the competition , its not the be all and end all ' and 'in context its about preparation for the league '. Its nothing but a glorified pre season competition that costs full money. All about Lugar getting a game with Talbot , the Ants a game v Pollok without earning them. So Swift puts out a team that fails to beat AWR on sat and saves a hard trip to Hurlford 3 days before a difficult trip to Troon in the league opener, no wonder the bookies stay clear of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Stuart. Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 That wouldn't have anything to do with defeats at the hands of Saltcoats Vics and darvel would it? No. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berryblastie Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 So Swift puts out a team that fails to beat AWR on sat and saves a hard trip to Hurlford 3 days before a difficult trip to Troon in the league opener, no wonder the bookies stay clear of it. Swift has won fk all at Kilbirnie, so he can't afford to dismiss any cup , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berryblastie Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 So it's a Diddy cup.cos cos bookies don't price up...rubbish it's just managers who lose use that excuse ..Kilwinning no chance of winning league..Kilbirnie no chance of winning league..so why prepare for league..when u might have a chance to win a trophy at the start of season..cos it's a very difficult thing to do as a junior manager...it's all about survival .apart from Talbot Hurlford Troon Beith n Pollok....the rest fighting to stay up..... So a team that finishes 3rd previous season has no chance of winning the league cotter?Yet beith,troon,Pollok , have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotter Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 That's my predictions...the rest will be fighting it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertha/BJFC1938 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 8 hours ago, Sunrise said: Kinda felt the same at the start of the season until I noticed teams were missing players often due to holiday - would rather have this scenario in a minor cup contest than starting the league campaign earlier with smaller squads. FWIW's think there's a place for one Ayrshire/Central district cup (maybe as a qualifier to the big Scottish ala in Germany?) Is this not the current west of Scotland cup mate albeit there is no big Scottish entry.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seekfedup Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I'd like my team to win it but I still think since the ayrshire n Glasgow teams joined to make the super league it has become a bit of a joke and yeah I'd go as far as calling it a Diddy cup If your teams still in it, plays well or wins the trophy it's great. Tends to be taken less serious when your team are disappointing. I'd rather have this comp than friendly games at the start of a new season. Just my opinion.I can also remember watching this comp for years and years and getting excited looking for the start of the new league season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Spoiler Junior football has a ridiculous number of trophies and these ones should be first to go as part of a streamlining process along with the ET Cup. One Ayrshire or Central area cup competition per season would be plenty. nobody is going to complain if they win it, of course, but having so many competitions dilutes the importance of them overall. The 'diddy' tag is a bit unhelpful but it's definitely a distance behind the league , Scottish and West as a priority for clubs or an attraction for fans these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ilford Drummer Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, Shanner said: Reveal hidden contents Junior football has a ridiculous number of trophies and these ones should be first to go as part of a streamlining process along with the ET Cup. One Ayrshire or Central area cup competition per season would be plenty. nobody is going to complain if they win it, of course, but having so many competitions dilutes the importance of them overall. The 'diddy' tag is a bit unhelpful but it's definitely a distance behind the league , Scottish and West as a priority for clubs or an attraction for fans these days. well said that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-german exile Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I'd rather have this comp than friendly games at the start of a new season. Just my opinion.I can also remember watching this comp for years and years and getting excited looking for the start of the new league season. I agree much better than preseason friendlies.It will also always be the JACKIE SCARLETT cup for me which was one of my earliest memories of junior football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 19 hours ago, cotter said: So it's a Diddy cup.cos cos bookies don't price up...rubbish it's just managers who lose use that excuse ..Kilwinning no chance of winning league..Kilbirnie no chance of winning league..so why prepare for league..when u might have a chance to win a trophy at the start of season..cos it's a very difficult thing to do as a junior manager...it's all about survival .apart from Talbot Hurlford Troon Beith n Pollok....the rest fighting to stay up..... Winning the Ardagh would give Swift kudos getting relegated would get him the sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 51 minutes ago, ex-german exile said: I agree much better than preseason friendlies. It will also always be the JACKIE SCARLETT cup for me which was one of my earliest memories of junior football. Why do clubs play friendlies then when they have this cup. Start the Ardagh middle of July , get it out the way quick , treat it then as pre aeason . At the moment clubs are playing 6 , 7 friendlies then wanting to use the Ardagh as an extended pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan of the juniors Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 The Ardagh has had its day plain & simple . A bit like the old district cups like the North Ayrshire cup . Used to enjoy them as well but no one was interested in the end up. Think we are the only set up about where cups are valued above the leagues . An I will say that even if we get to the final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ilford Drummer Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, fan of the juniors said: The Ardagh has had its day plain & simple . A bit like the old district cups like the North Ayrshire cup . Used to enjoy them as well but no one was interested in the end up. Think we are the only set up about where cups are valued above the leagues . An I will say that even if we get to the final no need to worry The Ford will pump you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan of the juniors Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 no need to worry The Ford will pump you. Won't be there anyways so couldn't care less . Not went to an away game in the last 3 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggotman Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Legal reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan of the juniors Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Legal reasons? League cup games as in my opinion they are a waste of time & money . Go to every league & other cup game unless I'm working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Good on you. More people should make a stand like this. The Juniors would undoubtedly flourish with forward thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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