RandomGuy. Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 10 hours ago, 54_and_counting said: burke in the championship will do him good, yet a few years ago when jordan rhodes was scoring for fun in said same league it wasnt good enough as fletcher was playing in the epl The masses can be so fickle at times Is it even comparable? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Very surprised he's not going on this B team tour of Central America. It's going to f**k our ranking points anyway, so what harm is there in playing the guys who are too old for the 21s? I'd have taken Gauld along too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: Is it even comparable? Well yeah, rhodes was scotlands most inform club striker for nearly a full qualifying campaign and people knocked the idea of him for scotland because he was nproven in the epl, now apparently burke going to the championship and playing well is good enough when rhodes in the same league wasnt good enough -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Rhodes really should have 35 caps by now, criminally underused. As was Boyd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 17 hours ago, Savage Henry said: Very surprised he's not going on this B team tour of Central America. It's going to f**k our ranking points anyway, so what harm is there in playing the guys who are too old for the 21s? I'd have taken Gauld along too. He's not too old for the U21s. He's in the squad for the Toulon tournament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Well yeah, rhodes was scotlands most inform club striker for nearly a full qualifying campaign and people knocked the idea of him for scotland because he was nproven in the epl, now apparently burke going to the championship and playing well is good enough when rhodes in the same league wasnt good enough I don't think it was the 'unproven in the EPL' argument that kept Rhodes out, it was more the 'he doesn't have the link up and lone striker style of play that we need' one. Still, I agree we shot ourselves in the foot by not capitalizing on his form during that period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, Gordopolis said: I don't think it was the 'unproven in the EPL' argument that kept Rhodes out, it was more the 'he doesn't have the link up and lone striker style of play that we need' one. Still, I agree we shot ourselves in the foot by not capitalizing on his form during that period. He also didn’t seem to be one of Strachans mates which added another hurdle onto being selected 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, Gordopolis said: I don't think it was the 'unproven in the EPL' argument that kept Rhodes out, it was more the 'he doesn't have the link up and lone striker style of play that we need' one. Still, I agree we shot ourselves in the foot by not capitalizing on his form during that period. Im certain a few people used the epl comment when defending their choice of Steven fletcher over rhodes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Im certain a few people used the epl comment when defending their choice of Steven fletcher over rhodes Definitely was mentioned, yeah.Re Burke, the thing with him is that he still hasn't found his level. He's capable of brilliant flashes (see his Forest highlights) and has elite level athletic attributes (one of the top 3 fastest in world football I think?) but hasn't really found a groove anywhere. Hoping he storms the championship and - ideally - comes back up with WBA as one of their key players. Dont think a move to another club would help him at this stage - unless he is frozen out at the Hawthorns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Its no been ideal for him past 2 seasons but compared to Gauld he has experienced a higher foreign league (wiki shows 25 appearances which I was a tad suprised at). And has made a dozen appearances in the premiership. Im hoping West Brom play him in the championship next season as he is proven there and can then possibly go straight back up and make a better go of the premiership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I watched a decent bit of Burke at Leipzig - when he came on as a sub (which he did often) he generally made a difference. On from the start he didn’t seem to do much. Frustrating that he has then went to a poorer league and had a pretty hopeless season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Rhodes and Boyd are the two most natural goalscorers Scotland has had since mccoist, both were completely ignored, we never scored any goals and never qualified for fk all. Go figure. Some might have built their teams round them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 8 hours ago, gannonball said: Its no been ideal for him past 2 seasons but compared to Gauld he has experienced a higher foreign league (wiki shows 25 appearances which I was a tad suprised at). And has made a dozen appearances in the premiership. Im hoping West Brom play him in the championship next season as he is proven there and can then possibly go straight back up and make a better go of the premiership. Most of those appearances he got about 11 minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 He's finished. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy2015 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Rhodes and Boyd are the two most natural goalscorers Scotland has had since mccoist, both were completely ignored, we never scored any goals and never qualified for fk all. Go figure. Some might have built their teams round them. Rhodes has not been the same arguably since he left Huddersfield or at least blackburn. At Middlesbrough and Sheffield Wednesday hes been pretty terrible. I agree he should have had more caps between 2009 - 2015 as should Boyd but not the same quality as Griffiths and don’t feel Rhodes are Boyd would have transformed our fortunes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Burke is still a youngster who's had tremendous experience so early in his career, Gareth Bale was written off at his age after a ropey start and the rest is history. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, skippy2015 said: Rhodes has not been the same arguably since he left Huddersfield or at least blackburn. At Middlesbrough and Sheffield Wednesday hes been pretty terrible. I agree he should have had more caps between 2009 - 2015 as should Boyd but not the same quality as Griffiths and don’t feel Rhodes are Boyd would have transformed our fortunes. We'll never know now. We certainly couldn't have done any worse and we certainly would have been more likely to score goals. Griffiths is already going the same way, he should have more than double the amount of caps he currently has. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 57 minutes ago, kenny131 said: Burke is still a youngster who's had tremendous experience so early in his career, Gareth Bale was written off at his age after a ropey start and the rest is history. Funny how you say that about Burke but call gauld 'dugmeat'. One might suggest you're an idiot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 We'll never know now. We certainly couldn't have done any worse and we certainly would have been more likely to score goals. Griffiths is already going the same way, he should have more than double the amount of caps he currently has. Pretty positive we could have done worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Peppino Impastato said: Funny how you say that about Burke but call gauld 'dugmeat'. One might suggest you're an idiot. Because Gauld is dug meat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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