Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: Judith going to be one of the co-presenters I'm hearing. Pleased with that. Two points for a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 7.30 Is a much better time than 10.30. Not just the time of the show that matters, the running of the show Is garbage. Maybe do a goal of the month competition? Better Interviews that last more than 5 seconds. Pundits Instead of players that retired a season before. The pundits that have not long been retired are much much much much better than the old timers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, stevethedog said: What was the name of that docu they did on the state of scottish football and why we're not producing international class players anymore? Can't find it on iplayer or anything about it for the life of me. Trying to procrastinate here. The one with Jim traynor is called A match for Europe, the new one that comes out this month is called Scotland's Game ETA: Here's a clip: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00pngjl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Jag Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Not Sportscene admittedly, but BBC Scotland news. On the eve of the new season, why bother having a look at each of the teams or even a look at the opening fixtures when you can broadcast a short Sevco propaganda film instead? Almost the entire sport slot was dedicated to Rangers' "return". Roy MacGregor and Les Gray were brought on and both could barely hide their hard-ons for "The return of Rangers". They also wheeled out some no-mark from some Scottish sporting body who said that people in England have regarded Scottish football as "on pause" since Rangers were "demoted" and that tomorrow will see the "play" button pressed again. Absolutely pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Not Sportscene admittedly, but BBC Scotland news. On the eve of the new season, why bother having a look at each of the teams or even a look at the opening fixtures when you can broadcast a short Sevco propaganda film instead? Almost the entire sport slot was dedicated to Rangers' "return". Roy MacGregor and Les Gray were brought on and both could barely hide their hard-ons for "The return of Rangers". They also wheeled out some no-mark from some Scottish sporting body who said that people in England have regarded Scottish football as "on pause" since Rangers were "demoted" and that tomorrow will see the "play" button pressed again. Absolutely pathetic. I had a horrible feeling we were going to get some one from every club fluffing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Not Sportscene admittedly, but BBC Scotland news. On the eve of the new season, why bother having a look at each of the teams or even a look at the opening fixtures when you can broadcast a short Sevco propaganda film instead? Almost the entire sport slot was dedicated to Rangers' "return". Roy MacGregor and Les Gray were brought on and both could barely hide their hard-ons for "The return of Rangers". They also wheeled out some no-mark from some Scottish sporting body who said that people in England have regarded Scottish football as "on pause" since Rangers were "demoted" and that tomorrow will see the "play" button pressed again. Absolutely pathetic. Yeah watched it too and was utterly baffled.It just astounds me the amount of people they wheel out to talk down 40 clubs in the country. I fucking hate sky and what they've done to football but I at least recognise they're a very successful commercial entity.Bbc is a public body ffs. Scandalous from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Jag Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 You're right - we're the compete opposite to Sky and their promotion of the English game. We actively talk our own product down at every opportunity. When that no-mark made his comments about what the English think of our game I nearly put my foot through the tele. "What will England think?" - is one of the single most infuriating things about those running and reporting on our game. I struggle to imagine those responsible for the Danish, Belgian and Polish leagues keeping themselves awake at night with worry about how the Germans percieve their game. Its just another manifestation of the "Scottish cringe" I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 You're right - we're the compete opposite to Sky and their promotion of the English game. We actively talk our own product down at every opportunity. When that no-mark made his comments about what the English think of our game I nearly put my foot through the tele. "What will England think?" - is one of the single most infuriating things about those running and reporting on our game. I struggle to imagine those responsible for the Danish, Belgian and Polish leagues keeping themselves awake at night with worry about how the Germans percieve their game. Its just another manifestation of the "Scottish cringe" I suppose. 'All the decisions on Scottish football media are made within the M25'f**k off you absolute fucking cuntbucket.Ok so I'm not over last night yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Malkmus Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 As someone who lives within the M25, I can safely say that no-one I've come across who likes football gives the slightest shit about either Scottish football at large or the Old Firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I couldn't give a f**k what they say. It actually makes the last few years better knowing these cretins have been furious for the entire time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Refer to Rangers in England and the first thought is QPR. Scottish football is right up there with the National League, Irish and Welsh football in English eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Wise words from Roy, doesn't play to the galleries like twats like Steven Thompson do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted August 6, 2016 Author Share Posted August 6, 2016 In fairness, it seems the "extra cameras" promise has been fulfilled. I've counted five at Dingwall and we're not an Alba game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 19 hours ago, Hammer Jag said: who said that people in England have regarded Scottish football as "on pause" since Rangers were "demoted" Pretty irrelevant long before that all happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Just confirmed by Richard Gordon that Sportscene's regular slot will be 6pm on a Sunday with it being a bit later to start with due to the Olympics. Good news that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I'm not convinced that Sunday teatime is much of an improvement on later evening - in my case I will probably miss it more than I would previously - but others may disagree, and I'm guessing they're expecting improved viewing figures. However - this talk of improved production values, budgets and so on will make little difference unless they address the fundamental weekly failings which people complained about. Shortage of camera angles at "smaller" games was only one of many grumbles. Others included: excessive focus on OF; minimal coverage of "smaller" games; sub-standard pundits; useless anchors; sloppy graphics; glaring factual inaccuracies; and so on. Perhaps additional budgets = additional staffing = better preparation, proof-checking, etc. but a lot of it is was decried as poor professionalism, editorial decision-making and "jobs for the boys" pundit recruitment, which increased resourcing doesn't necessarily eradicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Maybe we should try & predict the order. 1st 2 should be easy.Home teamsRangersHeartsSaintsKilliePartickRossLower leagues no longer exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 hour ago, HibeeJibee said: I'm not convinced that Sunday teatime is much of an improvement on later evening - in my case I will probably miss it more than I would previously - but others may disagree, and I'm guessing they're expecting improved viewing figures. However - this talk of improved production values, budgets and so on will make little difference unless they address the fundamental weekly failings which people complained about. Shortage of camera angles at "smaller" games was only one of many grumbles. Others included: excessive focus on OF; minimal coverage of "smaller" games; sub-standard pundits; useless anchors; sloppy graphics; glaring factual inaccuracies; and so on. Perhaps additional budgets = additional staffing = better preparation, proof-checking, etc. but a lot of it is was decried as poor professionalism, editorial decision-making and "jobs for the boys" pundit recruitment, which increased resourcing doesn't necessarily eradicate. Above all, as with all BBC Scotland football coverage, the greatest need is more care. That might well be related to budget of course, but it's also probably more fundamental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I asked Tam McManus on Twitter and he said that they'll probably have a couple of Championship games on Sportscene each week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Marr1 said: I asked Tam McManus on Twitter and he said that they'll probably have a couple of Championship games on Sportscene each week The boy struggles to dress himself, what does he know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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