paulsmythe Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Freedom of information from DWP have stated Talbot allowed their club to be used for forced labour from ppl out of work on benefits by DWP . Dont know if it still happens Shameful to say the least. any comments from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 It seems a pretty indefensible scheme to be part of but the list of organisations includes Oxfam, Save the Children, some Hospices and a number of other very worthwhile organisations so I'd be interested to see how Talbot were involved before rushing to condemnation, however Talbot aren't a charity and if they've gained from the exploitation of people who've been forced into a financial corner by an utterly abhorrent welfare system then it reflects astonishingly poorly on them, particularly given the legacy of Thatcherism/ Conservatism in that area is mass unemployment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 community service is different though, thats a punishment from the courts Mandatory work Activity is making people claiming benefits work 38 hours a week for £55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seekfedup Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Freedom of information from DWP have stated Talbot allowed their club to be used for forced labour from ppl out of work on benefits by DWP . Dont know if it still happens Shameful to say the least. any comments from them Your post is vague to say the least, if people undertaking a community payback order or cjs are assigned to work within the local community in any capacity I'm all in favour of that. Even if it is in Auckinleck [emoji19] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Just now, Seekfedup said: Your post is vague to say the least, if people undertaking a community payback order or cjs are assigned to work within the local community in any capacity I'm all in favour of that. Even if it is in Auckinleck It's not that though - I thought he was at the wind up so Goggled it and it's benefit claimants under threat of benefit sanctions. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dwp-forced-reveal-vast-list-8522078 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 no this isnt through the courts, DWP department of work and pensions make people who are claiming Job seekers allowance force people to go to various companies and work a full week for £55. A community club like talbot shouldnt be doing this , they actually get money from the DWP to do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, paulsmythe said: no this isnt through the courts, DWP department of work and pensions make people who are claiming Job seekers allowance force people to go to various companies and work a full week for £55. A community club like talbot shouldnt be doing this , they actually get money from the DWP to do this They're not any more as the scheme ended in April. Talbot's name was on the list published for July 2011 - January 2012 as a provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, Shanner said: They're not any more as the scheme ended in April. Talbot's name was on the list published for July 2011 - January 2012 as a provider. so how did they get on that list, they didnt just pull there name out a hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 16 minutes ago, Shanner said: It seems a pretty indefensible scheme to be part of but the list of organisations includes Oxfam, Save the Children, some Hospices and a number of other very worthwhile organisations so I'd be interested to see how Talbot were involved before rushing to condemnation, however Talbot aren't a charity and if they've gained from the exploitation of people who've been forced into a financial corner by an utterly abhorrent welfare system then it reflects astonishingly poorly on them, particularly given the legacy of Thatcherism/ Conservatism in that area is mass unemployment. couldnt have said it better, Tried to ask thempolitely on twitter if they were still involved, got blocked . That might say a lot about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Just now, paulsmythe said: so how did they get on that list, they didnt just pull there name out a hat Eh? read the article in my earlier post for an explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, Shanner said: Eh? read the article in my earlier post for an explanation. what i mean is did talbot register to be one of these companies or were they approached by DWP first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, paulsmythe said: what i mean is did talbot register to be one of these companies or were they approached by DWP first Sorry, got you now. No idea mate. Would probably need to be someone from Talbot to answer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 Just now, Shanner said: Sorry, got you now. No idea mate. Would probably need to be someone from Talbot to answer that. well it would be interesting to hear from the club to see why they would think this would be a good image for a community club and indeed if it was common knowledge . I couldnt believe it reading the list of companies on the list and seeing a junior football team on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 Just now, Quantum Leap said: Nobody from the club has to answer to you pal. Who's your team by the way.? do they have something to hide ? . What relevance would my club have to do with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 Just now, Quantum Leap said: Let's look at some of your comments... Mighty Auchenleck scumbags Talbot allowed their club. Axe to grind obviously. Who's your team? Who are you? How long have you been a member on here? iv been on here about 1 hour, i asked them on their twitter account a simple question about this topic and got blocked which makes me think they have something to hide . I have no junior club that i follow , maybe my scumbag comment was OTT . Did you as a talbot man know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Quantum Leap said: You have been a member on here 5 mins and your first entry is to discredit Auchinleck Talbot FC. You got blocked because you are an arsehole attempting to blacken the name of Auchinleck Talbot and you really can't expect to be accepted by the same who you call scumbags. Who is your team?? What is your other name on here?? i think your club has blackened its own name by exploiting people on benefits. 541 companies on that list and 1 is your club. You clearly seem to think i support another team on here and i have another account which i do not. i find in incredible that a club which seems to have a community spirit was on that list and just want to know why. Did you know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 if this had been any other team i would have posted the same topic, not just because its talbot. Your team is on a list of shame mate all over the UK , see previous posts about slavery :-) I know im a bawbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 what do you know about the story then ill tell u my team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepiyo Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 First I've heard of this but there's a huge number of community projects, charities and football clubs on that list. Paper is clearly not separating between massive companies exploiting people and those trying to genuinely help people back into work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsmythe Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 i bet who ever my team is they wont be on the list of shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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