Falcor Roar Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Inspired by that bomb scare formation post in the Gauld thread. Should we rule out a back 3 plus wing backs? I always thought its a bit bonkers to play a formation which defenders don't use at their clubs but Wales have used it successfully. Maybe it could make up for our lack of quality at CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Falcor Roar said: Inspired by that bomb scare formation post in the Gauld thread. Should we rule out a back 3 plus wing backs? I always thought its a bit bonkers to play a formation which defenders don't use at their clubs but Wales have used it successfully. Maybe it could make up for our lack of quality at CB? doubt 3 at the back would work, you either need 3 good centre halves (we dont have) or 2 half decent centre halves and a good sweeper to organise them (which we dont have) i would however love a 3 at the back as we have a few decent potential wingbacks, and it would take away this whole 1 up front shite we have witnessed for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 3 hours ago, Falcor Roar said: Inspired by that bomb scare formation post in the Gauld thread. Should we rule out a back 3 plus wing backs? I always thought its a bit bonkers to play a formation which defenders don't use at their clubs but Wales have used it successfully. Maybe it could make up for our lack of quality at CB? Wales have good centre halves though. Ashley Williams is probably the best British centre half going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: Wales have good centre halves though. Ashley Williams is probably the best British centre half going. They have one good centre half. Williams is partnered by a left back and another centre half as equally as shite as one of ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 They have one good centre half. Williams is partnered by a left back and another centre half as equally as shite as one of ours. Think you're pushing it there. James Collins, who is a regular at centre half for West Ham who finished 7th in the EPL last season can't get a start for Wales. If he was Scottish, he would be right in the starting line up. We don't have a single player who plays regularly for a top half EPL team. Wales have some who can't get in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 15 minutes ago, Lex said: Think you're pushing it there. James Collins, who is a regular at centre half for West Ham who finished 7th in the EPL last season can't get a start for Wales. If he was Scottish, he would be right in the starting line up. We don't have a single player who plays regularly for a top half EPL team. Wales have some who can't get in the team. Collins only started 16 games for West Ham. He's not much more than a back up and is someone they should be looking to upgrade upon. Besides, it's James Chester who's been playing instead recently and he struggles to force himself into the West Brom team. Charlie Adam plays more regularly for Stoke than Collins does for West Ham and he can't get in our team. Who are these Wales players you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Collins played for West Ham for a total of 1,973 minutes last season, compared to Adams 1,275. While Chester was an absolute standout in the Championship and ended up moving for £10m. They both shite on the likes of Hanley and Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 They have one good centre half. Williams is partnered by a left back and another centre half as equally as shite as one of ours. Davies can play centre half very well. He's a very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM. Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I don't think Chester is a great deal better than Martin/Hanley but the difference is Wales look like a defensive unit whereas our back line is a shambles as a unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 19 minutes ago, C. Muir said: I don't think Chester is a great deal better than Martin/Hanley but the difference is Wales look like a defensive unit whereas our back line is a shambles as a unit. Yeah you've got to think there is a failing to organise the defence. Basic things like Martin wandering like a tit for Poland's opener back in October. Naismith being left to mark 6ft 3in Murphy on the near post flick on for Ireland's goal. It should be Strachan's priority to get them organised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 7 hours ago, Falcor Roar said: Yeah you've got to think there is a failing to organise the defence. Basic things like Martin wandering like a tit for Poland's opener back in October. Naismith being left to mark 6ft 3in Murphy on the near post flick on for Ireland's goal. It should be Strachan's priority to get them organised. strachan can only do so much, you need a leader at the back to say who goes where and marks what player, we havent had a defensive leader for a long time, davie weir probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 On 04/07/2016 at 1:11 AM, Peppino Impastato said: we're miles ahead of northern Ireland, they'd kill for some of the players who can't even get in our squad, we could put out 3 squads better than Iceland too and are better than Albania. One tournament doesn't mean they have better players, the northern Ireland keeper just got released by Hamiltonf ffs, we have 3 outstanding keepers they don't have any. Only Evans and Davis would get in our squad. You sir need to see a specialist, all that incoherent babbling your doing. Norn Ireland would hammer us in a competitive match...because theyou are better than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 On 04/07/2016 at 4:24 PM, Dunning1874 said: Kyle Lafferty wouldn't get in a Scotland squad, never mind a game. Everyone hounds Strachan for calling up Chris Martin but he's a considerably superior player. Northern Ireland have comfortably better centre backs than us, but looking at every other area of the park Davis is the only player who'd get in a Scotland squad. He'd be a guaranteed starter obviously, but no one else there would get a look-in even as a fringe player. Anyway, as for Scottish options, Danny Wilson is an ordinary Championship centre back who wouldn't get a game for Falkirk and will be found out horribly this season. He'll never play for Scotland again and rightly so. Cooper will hopefully get a cap in a friendly at some point and do well as we really can't be resorting to a player as poor as Berra every time Martin or Hanley are unavailable. It'd be nice if Kingsley could move to centre back at club level and continue his progress there since we have an abundance of left backs already. We're really just hoping for a player to emerge from nowhere like Robertson did, as there's no obvious young centre back you look at and think they're clearly on their way to being good enough. Looking at the under-21s, John Souttar hasn't matched the hype so far, Jordan McGhee doesn't look like he'll be anything more than a decent top flight player and Stuart Findlay clearly isn't going to be good enough for Scotland. Stephen Hendrie's going on loan to Blackburn for this season so it'll be interesting to see how he does in the Championship: it'd be good if he partners Hanley at centre back but he'll probably play left-back meaning he's just our 8th choice there if he does well. Chris Martin is a better player........bwahaha. you been jacking up. Chris Martin belongs on blackpool beach heeehaawww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 17 minutes ago, kenny131 said: Chris Martin is a better player........bwahaha. you been jacking up. Chris Martin belongs on blackpool beach heeehaawww He's been mince for Scotland but yes, Chris Martin is easily better than Kyle Lafferty. Kyle Lafferty was punted from an English Championship club to a relegation battling Turkish side because he wasn't anywhere near good enough for the division, having scored once in 20 appearances. Chris Martin has been the top scorer for his English Championship club three years running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I don't think kennys opinions are anything more than trolling tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 8 hours ago, Dunning1874 said: He's been mince for Scotland but yes, Chris Martin is easily better than Kyle Lafferty. Kyle Lafferty was punted from an English Championship club to a relegation battling Turkish side because he wasn't anywhere near good enough for the division, having scored once in 20 appearances. Chris Martin has been the top scorer for his English Championship club three years running. The same lafferty that rattled 7 goals in qualifying all big goals to earn them points. Heeehaawww martin only brought comedy factor watching his fat hind attempt a sprint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKTID Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 15 hours ago, kenny131 said: The same lafferty that rattled 7 goals in qualifying all big goals to earn them points. Heeehaawww martin only brought comedy factor watching his fat hind attempt a sprint It's a similar situation to Healy for Northern ireland, top scorer for them but never held down a regular place in a club team. Mcfadden was our talisman 15 goals in 40 odd appearances for Scotland but rarely got 4/5 goals a season for Everton or Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM. Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Hanley on the verge of signing for Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopio Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Interesting move........See another Strachan Fave in Greer will be going to Bolton, surely this must mean the end of his Scotland Career now as there is no way we should be calling him up whilst playing for a struggling Bolton, assuming he goes there and even plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Interesting move........See another Strachan Fave in Greer will be going to Bolton, surely this must mean the end of his Scotland Career now as there is no way we should be calling him up whilst playing for a struggling Bolton, assuming he goes there and even plays. You'd like to thinks so, wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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