SlayerX Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Fundamentally, it runs deeper than the manager. There's a multitude of problems, and it seems like that the powers-that-be don't want to finagle themselves away from the status quo, as it'll take money and actual effort and thought. God forbid that they actually do something to earn their money. The clubs and the SFA have to take responsibility for their abject failure with regards to coaching their kids. Look at France, Spain, Holland, Belgium, etc. Belgium are only twice as big as us, but they're a million times better than us, in terms of coaching and developing their youth. In Scotland, unfortunately, we still have coaches who teach their kids "You're not playing for Barcelona, so lump it forward!". Will it change? Not until the people in power want it to change. Would a change of manager improve us? Perhaps, but only incrementally. Our problems run deeper than the manager, and even the current players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 It's not the national team's manager's job to produce talent though, it's his job to pick the best available and turn them into a team that can qualify for major championships. Do you think folk in Belfast and Londonderry are sat on the NI equivalent if P&B bemoaning the lack of talent coming thorough there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowArab Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Slaven Bilic will probably be leaving West Ham soon. He'd be top of my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Slaven Bilic will probably be leaving West Ham soon. He'd be top of my list. And for me there's no chance either a) he'd be mental enough to take it or b) the SFA would have his name anywhere near any eventual shortlistI see him more as a Croatia or bust kind of guy, for some reason I only see him managing his own nation at international level, certainly not a relative backwater like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Can anyone remember if Strachan classes Dundee Utd as "a big club" or was it only Hearts, Hibs and Rangers (plus Aberdeen and Celtic obviously)? I recall he felt them not being in the top division, and not being 'helped back', was a particular cause of our ills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 It's not the national team's manager's job to produce talent though, it's his job to pick the best available and turn them into a team that can qualify for major championships. Do you think folk in Belfast and Londonderry are sat on the NI equivalent if P&B bemoaning the lack of talent coming thorough there? Where is Londonderry? You mean Derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Where is Londonderry? You mean Derry ^^^Big team found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 12 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: Where is Londonderry? You mean Derry No I mean Londonderry m8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 No I mean Londonderry m8. That imperial name doesn't exist anymore https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/council-votes-to-rename-londonderry-as-derry-1.2296065%3fmode=amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 ^^^ Big team found. Can't stand the OF m8, so way off. Not everyone with Irish connections likes the bigoted brothers. Although your response does highlight the absolute conditioning of the average Scottish person. Luckily as a Scotsman I was better informed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: That imperial name doesn't exist anymore https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/council-votes-to-rename-londonderry-as-derry-1.2296065%3fmode=amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Good Gif But why bother respond?Anyway each to our own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 minute ago, John Lambies Doos said: Good Gif But why bother respond? Anyway each to our own Well indeed, why bother bringing the name of the city into the discussion in the first places if each to our own? A total irrelevance to the discussion that was being had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Well indeed, why bother bringing the name of the city into the discussion in the first places if each to our own? A total irrelevance to the discussion that was being had. Fair point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullard Bluteau Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 At some point in the future, people will look back on the 3 people in charge of Scottish Football at present, Reagan, Strachan and Doncaster, and say "surely the fans didn't stand for that ? ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 At some point in the future, people will look back on the 3 people in charge of Scottish Football at present, Reagan, Strachan and Doncaster, and say "surely the fans didn't stand for that ? ". Most folk won't really give enough of a f**k, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 At some point in the future, people will look back on the 3 people in charge of Scottish Football at present, Reagan, Strachan and Doncaster, and say "surely the fans didn't stand for that ? ". They really won't. They'll say...f**k we were really shite back then or...so that's when we got really shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 "We used to have our own professional football leagues, you know" "f**k off Grandad - I'm trying to watch the Barca game" "...well, at least nobody in Scotland gives a shit about Celtic and Rangers anymore either." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 They really won't. They'll say...f**k we were really shite back then or...so that's when we got really shite. Or......one day in a post apocalyptic landscape an ancient will treat the young yins of the glorious era of reganandoncaster to a shamen that taught the survivors of armaggeddon to eat dust and thank the great jabba du succulent lamb so that we could all be thankfull for the chic young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Off topic but to imply as has been done above that the name of the city in Ulster is conclusively Derry, and conclusively not Londonderry, is both untrue and a gross oversimplification of the complex situation... the district council has taken the title "Derry & Strabane", but this has no more rendered the title "Derry" for all definitions and legal purposes than the name of the county of "Dunbartonshire" did for the burgh or parish of Dumbarton. To date legal cases have in fact upheld the official title Londonderry, for city and county... plus it is referred to as either, both interchangeably, or both together (usually as "Derry-Londonderry"), by a whole variety of institutions and organisations. It would be incorrect to say that it - whatever "it" means - is definitely Derry or Londonderry. In any case do most of us go round talking about "Czechia", "Republic of Cabo Verde", "Lisboa", "Kolkata" and "Nan Eilean-Siar" - or do lots of us say "Czech Republic", "Cape Verde Islands, "Lisbon", "Calcutta" and "the Western Isles"? It can be a matter of taste or translation regardless of official definitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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