forameus Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Also important to note that although Euro 2016 used head-to-head for a decider, with the WC it's purely GD. Slovenia currently have +7, Slovenia +1, us -1. I think the Malta games count into that (but not into the 2nd placed table) so we need to be absolutely scudding Lithuania and Malta to try and redress the balance. We don't want to be going to Slovenia with the knowledge that we could still get beaten to 2nd on goal difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 23 minutes ago, forameus said: For those that fancy torturing themselves, the people that brought you the interactive Euro 2016 qualifying website have one for this campaign too. http://ultra.zone/2018-FIFA-World-Cup-qualification-UEFA#group=f It's given me a little more hope to be honest. If results go the way we're expecting (Lithuania and Malta to largely job to everyone) then it comes down to a few key games with the three sides outside England. With 11 points and then 12 points good enough to make it into the playoff spots in 2014 and 2010 respectively, it's not outwith the realms of possibility yet. Lose to England and we likely need 4 wins. 2 should take care of themselves, so Slovakia at home becomes huge. Then Slovenia away on the final day...lol. It's amazing what that goal and win did in terms of making the impossible seem a bit less so. You start looking at the remaining games vs Malta, Lithuania, Slovenia and Slovakia as should win, could win * 2 and crunch clash, instead of who cares, we're out, we can't win games or keep a clean sheet * 4 ETA: took 10 'autos' on that site before we made it into second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 If we win all games, apart from England, And the Slo's draw with each other then we'd go second on 19 points. Whether that's enough to put us through to the play offs is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Lithuania, Slovakia, Slovenia and ourselves are all very shite and will all drop points to each other. I can't see any other outcome other than our group playing host to the worst runner-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Last night was a fine result but I still feel our qualification hopes were extinguished the moment we failed to beat the 5th seeds at home. There's far too much to do now and it's just not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino7 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Gordopolis said: It's amazing what that goal and win did in terms of making the impossible seem a bit less so. You start looking at the remaining games vs Malta, Lithuania, Slovenia and Slovakia as should win, could win * 2 and crunch clash, instead of who cares, we're out, we can't win games or keep a clean sheet * 4 ETA: took 10 'autos' on that site before we made it into second England 25981017017 Slovakia16105141798 Scotland151043315132 Slovenia1510433981 Lithuania1010244914-5 Malta09009225-23 Miss out by a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I managed to get us into 2nd, even with a draw against Slovenia in the final game. Think I needed a draw between the two Slovs and us getting a point against England for that though. A draw in that Slov derby would be brilliant for us providing we don't f**k things up for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Lithuania, Slovakia, Slovenia and ourselves are all very shite and will all drop points to each other. I can't see any other outcome other than our group playing host to the worst runner-up. Failing to finish second in this group would be pretty shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Will probably end up getting something against England then losing in Lithuania. We are 4th after 5 games and that's probably where most people expected us to be, and that's where we'll likely finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy Blonde Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Scary Bear said: I would love to see us employ a man called Slutsky. He'll work his way through Europe to us eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulloch Gorum Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Slovakia vs. Slovenia isn't really a derby... they're separated by Austria and Hungary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Shaun Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I loved Gordon's response to Luke Shanley last night when he mentioned the pressure, it shows he has a sense of humour lol. Luke: That must feel good personally because you were under severe pressure? Not the exact wording lol. Gordon: Really!!? (Pauses): Jesus!! You sure know how to cheer someone up s now I'll go home and have a cry to myself". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 50 minutes ago, Caley Shaun said: it shows he has a sense of humour lol. Careful, some people think managers shouldn't have those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I think we will pick up all 9 points at home then f**k it up in lithunia and Slovenia to finish 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I loved Gordon's response to Luke Shanley last night when he mentioned the pressure, it shows he has a sense of humour lol. Luke: That must feel good personally because you were under severe pressure? Not the exact wording lol. Gordon: Really!!? (Pauses): Jesus!! You sure know how to cheer someone up s now I'll go home and have a cry to myself". That doesn't look particularly funny when written down. Must have been funnier in audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 14 hours ago, Tulloch Gorum said: Slovakia vs. Slovenia isn't really a derby... they're separated by Austria and Hungary. It's a local rivalry second only to Austria vs Australia for atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 7 hours ago, kenny131 said: I think we will pick up all 9 points at home then f**k it up in lithunia and Slovenia to finish 3rd Didn't yoou say that we wouldn't beat anyone except Malta not so long ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Careful, some people think managers shouldn't have those. Some think a sense of humour is radically different to being an arrogant sarcastic p***k..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual Insanity Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Got 2nd in my first and second auto. I'll take the job. Looking at the other groups, Twelve points is the realistic minimum. Ten points would give you a good chance at second in our group but likely mean being the worst second placed team if you did scrape it. A draw against England to get you to eleven I reckon would leave you somewhere around 50% chance of playoffs. None of the four 'must wins' are particularly difficult games, as noted Slovakia are no great shakes. The chances of Scotland winning four winnable games out of four though? ETA in my sim Malta went on a storming run with victories away to Slovenia and at home to Lithuania to take them to second bottom, thus discounting the Lithuania result. That would certainly be a bonus but throws the credibility of the simulations into doubt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanQP Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 That doesn't look particularly funny when written down. Must have been funnier in audio. It wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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