Savage Henry Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 I've watched every game so far and as the tournament goes on the more relieved I am Scotland aren't there. Every single team is streets ahead of us (yes, including N. Ireland, Hungary, Iceland etc). Euro 2020 has to be the next realistic target for qualification, but with our ageing squad it's near impossible to be optimistic for the future. Northern Ireland is not streets ahead of Scotland in any sense, least of all footballing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 Any examples to back this up? Well. Osman Sow never got called up. So there's one. Even the most stringent of TAMB resident couldn't have a problem with the parent eligibility criterion, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Northern Ireland is not streets ahead of Scotland in any sense, least of all footballing. Yup I think what people are doing here is remembering the France/Italy friendlies instead of the actual qualifiers, where we put in some good performances and got 7 good results from 10. Northern Ireland have 40 professional players. That's why they're picking players from Kilmarnock and Hamilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeJay Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Northern Ireland is not streets ahead of Scotland in any sense, least of all footballing. They are sitting on 3 points in their group after 2 games, do you think Scotland would have achieved more than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 They are sitting on 3 points in their group after 2 games, do you think Scotland would have achieved more than that? I think Scotland could have at least matched their results thus far. Given that in the past 3 meetings with Poland, we've got a win and 2 draws, we'd do alright, and we'd also defeat Ukraine of they played like that against us. We also beat Northern Ireland fairly recently, suggesting that they're in fact not "streets ahead of us". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 They are sitting on 3 points in their group after 2 games, do you think Scotland would have achieved more than that? Probably. Do you think NI wouldve qualified out a group with Germany, Poland, ROI and Georgia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie S Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Probably. Do you think NI wouldve qualified out a group with Germany, Poland, ROI and Georgia?Georgia are rubbish, they're ranked 137th in the world for a reason. It's only Scotland that struggles against them. Republic of Ireland are very limited, one of the worst teams in the final stages, as their dreadful performance against Belgium confirmed. Whenever Scotland fail to emerge from a qualifying group, we're always told that it was a 'group of death' or similar. The truth is that we're just not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 We're not very good AND we had a very hard group And as for the ROI being limited and one of the worst teams there I do and don't think that's true. Said on here a lot now that there's a whole host of bang average teams in Europe, us and the ROI would fall into that group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Northern Ireland is not streets ahead of Scotland in any sense, least of all footballing. Definitely in a social sense IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Georgia are rubbish, they're ranked 137th in the world for a reason. It's only Scotland that struggles against them. Republic of Ireland are very limited, one of the worst teams in the final stages, as their dreadful performance against Belgium confirmed. Whenever Scotland fail to emerge from a qualifying group, we're always told that it was a 'group of death' or similar. The truth is that we're just not very good. Craig Brown on the radio yesterday mentioned that Georgia have a population of 35 million and are 'football crazy'. Just saying like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 oneteaminglasgow, on 19 Jun 2016 - 15:25, said:I think Scotland could have at least matched their results thus far. No. They couldn't. We're not there because we can't get those sorts of result. As poor as Ukraine were, they're the sort of side who would have taken at least a point from us. Northern Ireland a better side than us? They absolutely are. Better players? No. But that's not what makes a good team all of the time. Scotland are not a good team at the moment. Someone brought up good performances in qualifying but in our two best performances ( Poland and Germany at home ), we picked up one point. We were poor to absolutely terrible in the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Craig Brown on the radio yesterday mentioned that Georgia have a population of 35 million and are 'football crazy'. Just saying like... Doesn't matter. They were a shite team in qualifying, including in the game that they beat us. It's just that you don't have to be that great to beat us at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Craig Brown on the radio yesterday mentioned that Georgia have a population of 35 million and are 'football crazy'. Just saying like... absolute cringe hearing that old shite. every scottish coach should be removed from all levels of the national set up and replaced with people from a normal country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Craig Brown on the radio yesterday mentioned that Georgia have a population of 35 million and are 'football crazy'. Just saying like... That would be Morocco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 No. They couldn't. We're not there because we can't get those sorts of result. As poor as Ukraine were, they're the sort of side who would have taken at least a point from us. Northern Ireland a better side than us? They absolutely are. Better players? No. But that's not what makes a good team all of the time. Scotland are not a good team at the moment. Someone brought up good performances in qualifying but in our two best performances ( Poland and Germany at home ), we picked up one point. We were poor to absolutely terrible in the rest. Spot on. We had no away wins apart from the rock and we could easily have drawn at home to roi n Georgia. The draws against Poland were good results but in both games we started and finished under siege. If it wasn't for the odd own goal here n there we would have been closer to Georgia than roi in the group. We had some ok results in isolation but apart from the home game against roi when they still hit the bar, we didn't play terribly well throughout the group. Not once did we hit the heights that we did in the Croatia games of the previous campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Georgia are rubbish, they're ranked 137th in the world for a reason. It's only Scotland that struggles against them. Republic of Ireland are very limited, one of the worst teams in the final stages, as their dreadful performance against Belgium confirmed. Whenever Scotland fail to emerge from a qualifying group, we're always told that it was a 'group of death' or similar. The truth is that we're just not very good. You never answered my question so please try and do so without adding all this nonsensical mewling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Georgia are rubbish, they're ranked 137th in the world for a reason. It's only Scotland that struggles against them. That'll be the same Georgia who just beat Spain. Kind of suggests that it won't just be us that struggles. Just proves that when a side can grab a goal, and has the organisation to make sure their banks of four aren't breached, then they're very difficult to break down, even by the best. These results happen. For Spain, it was in a nothing pre-tournament friendly. For us, it was in what ended up being a must-win game. As is our want. I get the feeling sides like Georgia will improve over the next few years. They've been handed a massive incentive by the new European qualifying format and incoming Nations League, and sides like Albania have shown that you can be unfancied and still qualify. And as I type this, potentially get through as one of the best third placed sides. They're already probably past nations like us on a technical basis, so I could see them picking up more points over the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Friendly results mean f**k all. They're a poor side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 They're a poor side but the days of teams of that stature being easy pickings in their home ground is long gone. Folk still look at the Georgias and Macedonias of the world in a similar way to the Faroes/Gibraltar, despite the fact most have regulars in the top flights of some of the top leagues in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Friendly results mean f**k all. They're a poor side. Of course they're poor, but it doesn't mean that sometimes a team that should win comes unstuck against them, because they can be very well organised. They're a poor side but the days of teams of that stature being easy pickings in their home ground is long gone. Folk still look at the Georgias and Macedonias of the world in a similar way to the Faroes/Gibraltar, despite the fact most have regulars in the top flights of some of the top leagues in Europe. This. Although I'm not sure everyone does. The only ones we can really speak about are the home nations, as we have exposure to that. England still see those kind of sides as easy pickings, but then in qualifying, pretty much every side is for them at times. The problem is that we still see them as that. We shouldn't. Maybe then we wouldn't choke as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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