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[bennett]

Scoop time.

@tedermeatballs Computers and phone seized in house raid related to Craig Whyte's Rangers takeover. Full story in tomorrow's Daily Record

[hellbhoy]

9 minutes ago, bennett said:

Scoop time.

@tedermeatballs Computers and phone seized in house raid related to Craig Whyte's Rangers takeover. Full story in tomorrow's Daily Record

Did they have a warrant when you let them into the B&B Benny?

[Cerberus]

Probably looking for that wealth off the radar.

#amirite

[hellbhoy]

7 minutes ago, Cerberus said:

Probably looking for that wealth off the radar.

#amirite

[kildog]

I'm astonished that "WWTP" is still getting bites. 

You must be a riot at parties.

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[kildog]

Blatant Hibee alt.

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[Drew Brees]

Gordon Waddell in the mail.

Time for a few introductions. Rangers fans … meet the Foundation of Hearts. Meet the St Mirren Independent Supporters Association. Meet the Well Society.

You’re bigger than all of them put together, three times over. You’re the second biggest shareholder in the second biggest club in the country.

Yet they have something you don’t. Their clubs’ destinies in their own hands.

It’s time to ask yourselves – and ask them – how that happened. Then find a way of making it happen for you.

Because if you’re all still dumb enough to think the future of your own club should lie in the hands of Dave King or anyone remotely like him?

Hell mend you.

Constantly filling all four sides of Ibrox like vulnerable chicks in a nest, mouths agape, waiting for daddy Dave to come home to feed you.

Then just accepting the shovelfuls of excrement he tips down your throat on a daily basis without question.

Will there never be a point where you choke on all the s***?

The permanently inane statements, the awful recruitment, the disgraceful handling of the Derek McInnes affair, the stupidity of undermining Graeme Murty last week, the pointless confrontations in court over the takeover.

Aided and abetted by Alastair Johnston trying to tell you you’ve never had it so good, that you should be grateful you’re “ahead of the curve”.

“We’re probably doing a little better than we imagined running out at Brechin in the fourth tier,” Johnston said.

Is he kidding?

Six years to establish a new culture and a new baseline for a club with the second biggest budget in the country and they couldn’t foresee better than a battle to avoid fourth? There are amoeba with more vivid imaginations than that.

So how do you fix Rangers?

The saddest thing is that the answer is exactly the same as it was in 2012 – but they still haven’t figured it out.

It doesn’t lie in sugar daddies or over-investing or chasing another club who are so far beyond your horizon you can’t even see their trail of dust.

It doesn’t lie in the pie in the sky aim of stopping 10-in-a-row.

It lies in fundamentals. It lies in moving inch by inch forward rather than trying to take every short cut going and winding up further away than where you started.

The trouble was, no one asked the right questions at the start. Rangers had a blank sheet of paper but never established what they wanted a 21st century version of the club to look like.

Instead, they defaulted to the old ‘We are the people’ sense of entitlement, the ‘We’re Rangers so will behave like Rangers’ mantra.

And they’re suffering the consequences for their lack of foresight.

But if the fans could find true leadership and cohesion it shouldn’t be too late for them to establish a new baseline.

If Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell can find a sustainable model, then how can a club with 50,000 supporters there every home match not manage it?

Especially when their latent support is as substantial.

I watched the Scottish Cup semi-final with Celtic in a casino in Gold Coast, Australia, last week.

There were Gers fans there suffering every bit as much as those in the stands at Hampden.

They still feel invested in their club, despite their disenfranchisement. That can still be harnessed.

What they must realise though is that sorting Rangers was – and still is – a long-term project.

They can’t be gullible enough to think there’s a quick fix still just around the corner. They’ve wasted six years looking for a unicorn farting moonbeams and they can’t afford to waste any more.

They’re still built on shifting sands, despite all the promises.

In the past four years, the losses they’ve posted in their accounts go back £6.7m, £3.3m. £7.5m and £8.1m.

They still have in excess of £17m of ‘soft loans’ that they insist will be turned into equity as soon as they’re able to get a share issue off the ground.

Those aren’t the foundations for a great leap forward. So the fans have to mobilise, unify, find cohesion and leadership, and understand their own power.

Not just blindly renew their 40,000-plus season tickets. Their Union Bears are planning a silent protest for the Hearts game today – is it possible to make a morgue more quiet? – but they need their voices heard, not quelled.

The problem they’ve always had is not having a single voice to represent them. The establishment of Club 1872 was supposed to put paid to that, an amalgam of the Rangers Supporters Trust and RangersFirst, as a vehicle to buy up shares and create themselves a force.

But there’s still a bit of Monty Python about them – they’re still the Judean People’s Front one week and the People’s Front of Judea the next.

To be credible, they need a reliable figurehead to carry them forward. Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell all say that establishing a unity of purpose was pivotal in them getting momentum.

Either way, they’re Rangers’ only road to salvation right now. Not King.

They require a sustainable template and getting it right – not getting it quick – should be their only focus.

If they can get a membership scheme up and running, they can create a rock-solid bank of last resort for their club.

The Foundation of Hearts transfers £1.5m a year into the coffers every year from 8000 members.

But Rangers fans need leadership. They’re getting none from the top, so they’re going to have to look within.

And instead of King being forced to offer to buy their shares, they should be trying to find a way to buy his.

[bennett]

3 minutes ago, Drew Brees said:

Gordon Waddell in the mail.

Time for a few introductions. Rangers fans … meet the Foundation of Hearts. Meet the St Mirren Independent Supporters Association. Meet the Well Society.

You’re bigger than all of them put together, three times over. You’re the second biggest shareholder in the second biggest club in the country.

Yet they have something you don’t. Their clubs’ destinies in their own hands.

It’s time to ask yourselves – and ask them – how that happened. Then find a way of making it happen for you.

Because if you’re all still dumb enough to think the future of your own club should lie in the hands of Dave King or anyone remotely like him?

Hell mend you.

Constantly filling all four sides of Ibrox like vulnerable chicks in a nest, mouths agape, waiting for daddy Dave to come home to feed you.

Then just accepting the shovelfuls of excrement he tips down your throat on a daily basis without question.

Will there never be a point where you choke on all the s***?

The permanently inane statements, the awful recruitment, the disgraceful handling of the Derek McInnes affair, the stupidity of undermining Graeme Murty last week, the pointless confrontations in court over the takeover.

Aided and abetted by Alastair Johnston trying to tell you you’ve never had it so good, that you should be grateful you’re “ahead of the curve”.

“We’re probably doing a little better than we imagined running out at Brechin in the fourth tier,” Johnston said.

Is he kidding?

Six years to establish a new culture and a new baseline for a club with the second biggest budget in the country and they couldn’t foresee better than a battle to avoid fourth? There are amoeba with more vivid imaginations than that.

So how do you fix Rangers?

The saddest thing is that the answer is exactly the same as it was in 2012 – but they still haven’t figured it out.

It doesn’t lie in sugar daddies or over-investing or chasing another club who are so far beyond your horizon you can’t even see their trail of dust.

It doesn’t lie in the pie in the sky aim of stopping 10-in-a-row.

It lies in fundamentals. It lies in moving inch by inch forward rather than trying to take every short cut going and winding up further away than where you started.

The trouble was, no one asked the right questions at the start. Rangers had a blank sheet of paper but never established what they wanted a 21st century version of the club to look like.

Instead, they defaulted to the old ‘We are the people’ sense of entitlement, the ‘We’re Rangers so will behave like Rangers’ mantra.

And they’re suffering the consequences for their lack of foresight.

But if the fans could find true leadership and cohesion it shouldn’t be too late for them to establish a new baseline.

If Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell can find a sustainable model, then how can a club with 50,000 supporters there every home match not manage it?

Especially when their latent support is as substantial.

I watched the Scottish Cup semi-final with Celtic in a casino in Gold Coast, Australia, last week.

There were Gers fans there suffering every bit as much as those in the stands at Hampden.

They still feel invested in their club, despite their disenfranchisement. That can still be harnessed.

What they must realise though is that sorting Rangers was – and still is – a long-term project.

They can’t be gullible enough to think there’s a quick fix still just around the corner. They’ve wasted six years looking for a unicorn farting moonbeams and they can’t afford to waste any more.

They’re still built on shifting sands, despite all the promises.

In the past four years, the losses they’ve posted in their accounts go back £6.7m, £3.3m. £7.5m and £8.1m.

They still have in excess of £17m of ‘soft loans’ that they insist will be turned into equity as soon as they’re able to get a share issue off the ground.

Those aren’t the foundations for a great leap forward. So the fans have to mobilise, unify, find cohesion and leadership, and understand their own power.

Not just blindly renew their 40,000-plus season tickets. Their Union Bears are planning a silent protest for the Hearts game today – is it possible to make a morgue more quiet? – but they need their voices heard, not quelled.

The problem they’ve always had is not having a single voice to represent them. The establishment of Club 1872 was supposed to put paid to that, an amalgam of the Rangers Supporters Trust and RangersFirst, as a vehicle to buy up shares and create themselves a force.

But there’s still a bit of Monty Python about them – they’re still the Judean People’s Front one week and the People’s Front of Judea the next.

To be credible, they need a reliable figurehead to carry them forward. Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell all say that establishing a unity of purpose was pivotal in them getting momentum.

Either way, they’re Rangers’ only road to salvation right now. Not King.

They require a sustainable template and getting it right – not getting it quick – should be their only focus.

If they can get a membership scheme up and running, they can create a rock-solid bank of last resort for their club.

The Foundation of Hearts transfers £1.5m a year into the coffers every year from 8000 members.

But Rangers fans need leadership. They’re getting none from the top, so they’re going to have to look within.

And instead of King being forced to offer to buy their shares, they should be trying to find a way to buy his.
 

Its like he's  came on here and scooped up every popularist soundbite and Philled them up in one rather angry article. A shame because there are a few decent points in there ( amongst the sevcorage) that are lost, a better more impartial/open minded journalist.......

Sevco really isn't that good for Gordons blood pressure.

 

[HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows]

Just now, bennett said:

Its like he's  came on here and scooped up every popularist soundbite and Philled them up in one rather angry article. A shame because there are a few decent points in there ( amongst the sevcorage) that are lost, a better more impartial/open minded journalist.......

Sevco really isn't that good for Gordons blood pressure.

 

You just don't get it, do you? Silly ***.

[Drew Brees]

You just don't get it, do you? Silly ***.

That could be said for the vast majority. I was out with a *** mate last night who thinks watty will be back and the ‘war chest’ will “come from somewhere”.

Collectively they must be the stupidest bunch of people on the planet

[bennett]

2 minutes ago, Drew Brees said:

 

That could be said for the vast majority. I was out with a *** mate last night who thinks watty will be back and the ‘war chest’ will “come from somewhere”.

Collectively they must be the stupidest bunch of people on the planet

 

You were in here posting most of last night.....

[The Grass Is Greener.]

Cmon Bennet it might be hard to take but I think that is a well written honest explanation of how things have went. He also gives a backhanded compliment because he believes Rangers have the fan base to change things. It’s not an attack on anyone.

[SilverWolfe]

6 hours ago, bennett said:

Its like he's  came on here and scooped up every popularist soundbite and Philled them up in one rather angry article. A shame because there are a few decent points in there ( amongst the sevcorage) that are lost, a better more impartial/open minded journalist.......

Sevco really isn't that good for Gordons blood pressure.

 

Just wow. You and the rest of them really are thick as f**k. That right there is spot on in every way.

You let your club die the first time around with that sort of attitude and have not learned one thing. Not that I'm surprised. 

[Forest of Dean]

6 hours ago, bennett said:

You were in here posting most of last night.....

Don't mind him - he's just pretending to have friends and a life.

[The_Kincardine]

9 hours ago, The Grass Is Greener. said:

Cmon Bennet it might be hard to take but I think that is a well written honest explanation of how things have went. He also gives a backhanded compliment because he believes Rangers have the fan base to change things. It’s not an attack on anyone.

Sticks in my craw to agree with you - or even proffer you a Charles - but you're basically right.

However, Waddell has, as Bennett said, used the language of the Ps&Ds to, no doubt, appeal to the baser sort of readers his rag attracts.  He also ignores the fact that both Hearts and Motherwell were sugar-daddied by Budge and Hutchison, both of whom went on to proffer their shares for sale.

Waddell also ignores the truth that Hearts were offered a CVA which allowed them to be bought by Budge for pennies in the pound whereas we had no such option.

So Waddell's discourse is largely right: Rangers fans should have a greater willingness to be owners of our own destiny. 

His language, his comparisons and his ignorance of how we ended up where we are are largely aimed at the LCD dross who buy and quote The DR.

[Romeo]

2 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

Sticks in my craw to agree with you - or even proffer you a Charles - but you're basically right.

However, Waddell has, as Bennett said, used the language of the Ps&Ds to, no doubt, appeal to the baser sort of readers his rag attracts.  He also ignores the fact that both Hearts and Motherwell were sugar-daddied by Budge and Hutchison, both of whom went on to proffer their shares for sale.

Waddell also ignores the truth that Hearts were offered a CVA which allowed them to be bought by Budge for pennies in the pound whereas we had no such option.

So Waddell's discourse is largely right: Rangers fans should have a greater willingness to be owners of our own destiny. 

His language, his comparisons and his ignorance of how we ended up where we are are largely aimed at the LCD dross who buy and quote The DR.

Yay...Sevco won...Kinky is back!!!

[Forest of Dean]

Looks like Arfield on a bosman could be happening. Another option for the wings is badly needed:

 

[hellbhoy]

23 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

Sticks in my craw to agree with you - or even proffer you a Charles - but you're basically right.

However, Waddell has, as Bennett said, used the language of the Ps&Ds to, no doubt, appeal to the baser sort of readers his rag attracts.  He also ignores the fact that both Hearts and Motherwell were sugar-daddied by Budge and Hutchison, both of whom went on to proffer their shares for sale.

Waddell also ignores the truth that Hearts were offered a CVA which allowed them to be bought by Budge for pennies in the pound whereas we had no such option.

So Waddell's discourse is largely right: Rangers fans should have a greater willingness to be owners of our own destiny. 

His language, his comparisons and his ignorance of how we ended up where we are are largely aimed at the LCD dross who buy and quote The DR.

^^^ Sat back and watched his club die whining about the language of the Ps&Ds telling him it was dying but, would rather engage in insulting members and taking many a meltdown on the proper usage of the English  language.

It is what is called a short, sharp shock containing all the The Rangers fans need to pull together as a coherent group to save the current disaster from doing a Rangers. Not that you care, you'd rather be a tit on the forum burying your head in the sand as long as you feel you have sufficiently used enough rarely used words and phrases to make you look smart and superior.  You support The Rangers ffs.

[hellbhoy]

6 hours ago, Forest of Dean said:

Looks like Arfield on a bosman could be happening. Another option for the wings is badly needed:

 

On paper, he looks a decent signing if you get him.

[BawWatchin]

On ‎22‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 19:07, The_Kincardine said:

His language, his comparisons and his ignorance of how we ended up where we are are largely aimed at the LCD dross who buy and quote The DR.

How did they end up where they are then? We're all just choking to hear your version of events.

Edited April 23, 2018 by BawWatchin