Peppino Impastato Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: It's not restricted to bigoted songs. It's offensive behaviour. And the PF will not be the one arresting people at the football, it will be the police. They will decide what is offensive and we all know that the policing of OF fans and non OF fans is not the same. To quote a policeman when asked if he thought the songs that the Celtic fans were singing were illegal under the law, he replied "Do you expect me to arrest them all?" Nest week we play Motherwell and the police will arrest folk for f**k all. (Or at least chuck them out) The of will decide if you get prosecuted and it's to target bigoted songs normal football chants Will be fine. It is supported by around 80% of the public, only bigots opposite it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: It annoys me that there is a law which specifically discriminates against football fans. Why not offensive behaviour on a Saturday night at the pub or offensive behaviour at T in the Park? We don't have a societal problem at t in the park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 39 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: We don't have a societal problem at t in the park Not now that it's been cancelled no but I'd say assaults, stabbings and rapes are problems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 41 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: The of will decide if you get prosecuted and it's to target bigoted songs normal football chants Will be fine. It is supported by around 80% of the public, only bigots opposite it. Horseshit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Not now that it's been cancelled no but I'd say assaults, stabbings and rapes are problems. We already have laws for those 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Peppino Impastato said: It is supported by around 80% of the public, only bigots opposite it. 21 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Horseshit. Polling carried out by YouGov sometime in 2016. Total supporting 80.2% Total opposed 12.4% 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) I was disagreeing that only bigots oppose it. Edit: Also, there are plenty of 'normal' football chants which could be deemed offensive. It may be originally targeted at the bigots but it can be easily extended for anything that may be deemed offensive. Edited January 16, 2018 by Suspect Device 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: We already have laws for those We already had laws to cover offensive behaviour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 13 hours ago, Suspect Device said: We already had laws to cover offensive behaviour. Now we have one more, that is extremely popular. Except with bigots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Jag Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 It’s far too simplistic to say “if you don’t sing sectarian songs, you have nothing to worry about”. Two Hamilton fans were charged under this legislation for singing “well, well f**k yer well” towards Motherwell fans and a Falkirk fan was charged for sticking two fingers up at Dunfermline fans. Its an outrageous piece of legislation that needs binned ASAP. I say that as an SNP member. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 16/01/2018 at 20:10, lichtgilphead said: Polling carried out by YouGov sometime in 2016. Total supporting 80.2% Total opposed 12.4% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Hammer Jag said: It’s far too simplistic to say “if you don’t sing sectarian songs, you have nothing to worry about”. Two Hamilton fans were charged under this legislation for singing “well, well f**k yer well” towards Motherwell fans and a Falkirk fan was charged for sticking two fingers up at Dunfermline fans. What happened to them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: What happened to them? Does it really matter if they were prosecuted or not? The point is that they were arrested for next to f**k all and proves that the legislation was not brought in purely to stamp out sectarianism. Glad to see some sense in Holyrood an no surprise to see the SNP never admitting when they're wrong. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-42718684 Quote Opponents of the law say it is poorly written, unnecessary in light of existing legislation and unfairly targets football fans - a position now endorsed by Holyrood's justice committee. are just bigots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Does it really matter if they were prosecuted or not? Yes, obviously it does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 48 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Yes, obviously it does. It kind of puts a dampener on my day at the football if I get arrested even if I am then let out without charge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Baxter Parp said: What happened to them? Kicked out of a football game they paid money for and arrested for absolutely nothing. I'd say that's fairly significant, and so would anyone that it's unfairly happened to I imagine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Randy Giles said: Kicked out of a football game they paid money for and arrested for absolutely nothing. I'd say that's fairly significant, and so would anyone that it's unfairly happened to I imagine. Are they the first folk ever kicked out of a football match for "absolutely nothing"? Because I'm pretty sure I've heard of that happening to fans before and long before the Act came in to force. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: It kind of puts a dampener on my day at the football if I get arrested even if I am then let out without charge. You're pretending nobody has been arrested without charge before now, which is silly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Okay, let's get involved in your pathetic whataboutery there. Do you think that makes it okay that it's the exact sort of thing this act is used to do? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Randy Giles said: Okay, let's get involved in your pathetic whataboutery there. Do you think that makes it okay that it's the exact sort of thing this act is used to do? I think if it wasn't that it would be some other law. What do you think they've been doing with Breach of the Peace for decade after decade after decade? The act isn't at fault here, the police are. Edited January 18, 2018 by Baxter Parp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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