djchapsticks Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Silvio said: It seems we are going down the route of piss poor upfront money with the promise of more to come in add ons and sell on fees. Looks like it could come to fruition with John McGinn and I suppose if Mallan does well with Barnsley the sell on fee could be lucrative. Hard to escape the initial feeling that it's too low though. During the 90s we sold guys like Lavety and Ricky Gillies for more than that. I'd like to think that if he performs as well for Barnsley as he did for us, the amount they eventually sell him on for will see us cut a bigger chunk than the initial outlay....substantially so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Would have loved us to have got him but we can't compete with the English Championship. Looks like a good move for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 minute ago, The Grass Is Greener. said: Would have loved us to have got him but we can't compete with the English Championship. Looks like a good move for him. No harm to Hibs, as we're relying on you to maximise profit on John McGinn when he eventually does go but if it's future percentage of sell on fees we're looking to negotiate, the lesser lights of the Championship in England, where they're likely to play regularly is where we want our youngsters going, not the Scottish Premiership. No one would even bat an eyelid if Mallan done moderately well down there and got a multi-million pound move in two years. Look at the type of fees players like Dorrans, Snodgrass and Ross McCormack have pulled in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: No harm to Hibs, as we're relying on you to maximise profit on John McGinn when he eventually does go but if it's future percentage of sell on fees we're looking to negotiate, the lesser lights of the Championship in England, where they're likely to play regularly is where we want our youngsters going, not the Scottish Premiership. No one would even bat an eyelid if Mallan done moderately well down there and got a multi-million pound move in two years. Look at the type of fees players like Dorrans, Snodgrass and Ross McCormack have pulled in. Yep getting the sell on percentage is the way to imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, The Grass Is Greener. said: Would have loved us to have got him but we can't compete with the English Championship. Looks like a good move for him. Fair play to the lad and St Mirren. Money for both is much better in English 2nd and even 3rd tiers. Hope he does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Was resigned to losing him but expected more than £200k. Let's hope jack gets the lot - don't see why he shouldn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Biscuits said: Was resigned to losing him but expected more than £200k. Let's hope jack gets the lot - don't see why he shouldn't? Sky sports reporting that the bid is £300k plus add ons and a sell on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 So Barnsley actually emailed Div with the transfer offer thinking he was the football club because he owns the domain name www.stmirren.co.uk ????. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 minute ago, sergie's no1 fan said: So Barnsley actually emailed Div with the transfer offer thinking he was the football club because he owns the domain name www.stmirren.co.uk Just seen that, brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said: So Barnsley actually emailed Div with the transfer offer thinking he was the football club because he owns the domain name www.stmirren.co.uk . This is why football clubs should stick to faxes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Div should've emailed them back telling them it was £3m... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadroj Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Fair play on staying up, made me look a w**k. Hopefully you can kick on and get promotion next season. Used to love going to see Killie play at St mirren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Sell on fees can be hit or miss unfortunately as are appearance based bonuses. We've lost out on more money for the likes of Arfield and McGrandles as they moved on fot nowt although at least we got 500k up front for the latter. Others like Kingsley have seen money continue to come in on top of the 350k initial fee. U win some u lose some. 2-300k seems a wee bit low unless you needed to sell obviously to cover some losses otherwise why the rush? How long was left on his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Funny looking back, the last time we struggled at the bottom of this division we were down in a scrap with Raith and Ayr, the both of them got relegated and we kicked on under Gus. Finished 2nd the next season and won the title a year later, where as Ayr never really recovered from that relegation and Raith only recently came back into this division. All very fine margins. Let's hope we aren't in a similar position any time soon, although history repeating itself with a promotion to the top league would be nice.Also looking at that yesterday, thank fck we avoided the lottery of the play offs. Everyone assumes the bigger team will be ok. Football is a weird old game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Sell on fees can be hit or miss unfortunately as are appearance based bonuses. We've lost out on more money for the likes of Arfield and McGrandles as they moved on fot nowt although at least we got 500k up front for the latter. Others like Kingsley have seen money continue to come in on top of the 350k initial fee. U win some u lose some. 2-300k seems a wee bit low unless you needed to sell obviously to cover some losses otherwise why the rush? How long was left on his contract? Mallan is out of contract next summer. The deal with Barnsley fell through in January, can only assume the club made a promise to him we'd sell him this summer if they came in with another bid. As for fees, he's only worth what someone will pay for him. Its enough for us to say he's worth 500k without any real knowledge of the transfer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 From Div (ooooooh wee stevie mallan, oooooooh wee stevie mallan .....) ... https://player.vimeo.com/video/217366984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 and Raith only recently came back into this division. . I enjoy a good kicking of the wee team more than most, they've been in this division since about 2009 though? That's a decent innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I enjoy a good kicking of the wee team more than most, they've been in this division since about 2009 though? That's a decent innings. Really? Time flies [emoji23]. Fair dos, lost track of goings on in this division for a while. They did toil in the 2nd division for a number of years though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 And will do again no doubt. Bunch of wee hoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Someone on the black & white army saying that we are in for Nicky Devlin. I hope that's not true as I would much rather keep Stelios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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