slangs Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Money talks can't blame any club for trying to make a bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 12 hours ago, slangs said: Money talks can't blame any club for trying to make a bob Point missed. If the juniors invested the money in making their grounds fit for actually playing in the tournaments they enter I would have a bit more sympathy for them. As it is , they are taking money out of the Scottish game without contributing anything back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Team in Angus Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 54 minutes ago, theoriginalhedge said: Point missed. If the juniors invested the money in making their grounds fit for actually playing in the tournaments they enter I would have a bit more sympathy for them. As it is , they are taking money out of the Scottish game without contributing anything back. But in fairness to the Juniors they have been given the opportunity to enter tournament and they are making the most out of it they can its the powers to be that are to blame not the juniors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slangs Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 So in what way are the junior sides meant to contribute back? As I see it most struggle from week to week with the threat of going tits up. Teams at the lower end really r in dire straights so for me continuing too compete is keeping the game going therefore contributing to the Scottish football. No help from the SFA.let's have a stab at them other than the juniors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 58 minutes ago, Best Team in Angus said: But in fairness to the Juniors they have been given the opportunity to enter tournament and they are making the most out of it they can its the powers to be that are to blame not the juniors I suppose you have a point . What rankles is that the juniors have no intention of joining the pyramid system of joining the leagues as previous polls etc have indicated. The bigger ones in question ie the likes of Bonnyrigg who constantly qualify for the cup are quite happy to take the money to monopolise their own leagues . 36 minutes ago, slangs said: So in what way are the junior sides meant to contribute back? As I see it most struggle from week to week with the threat of going tits up. Teams at the lower end really r in dire straights so for me continuing too compete is keeping the game going therefore contributing to the Scottish football. No help from the SFA.let's have a stab at them other than the juniors See the above statement for how they can contribute . Yes the run of the mill juniors who run their clubs as juniors and not semi pro outfits do have my admiration for managing to survive in today's climate . They provide an option for players too good for amatuer but not quite good enough for senior. It is the likes of Bonnyrigg , Linlithgow etc who rip the arse out of the flawed system. Just my thoughts . I don't disagree with the points raised though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Team in Angus Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Just now, theoriginalhedge said: I suppose you have a point . What rankles is that the juniors have no intention of joining the pyramid system of joining the leagues as previous polls etc have indicated. The bigger ones in question ie the likes of Bonnyrigg who constantly qualify for the cup are quite happy to take the money to monopolise their own leagues . But if say for instance we were offered say 50K a year from the Premiership because it was offered to us would we say no that not fair on teams in Premiership ? of course not you take it because you were offered it same as the juniors they have been offered something and are taking it. Don't get me wrong I do not think they should be in the Scottish cup but thems the rules that do need changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slangs Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 No matter what level each club has it's own agenda and we are no different. The pyramid doesn't work so clubs r forced to behave the way they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, Best Team in Angus said: But if say for instance we were offered say 50K a year from the Premiership because it was offered to us would we say no that not fair on teams in Premiership ? of course not you take it because you were offered it same as the juniors they have been offered something and are taking it. Don't get me wrong I do not think they should be in the Scottish cup but thems the rules that do need changed. It is the broader picture here. I keep harping on about them not contributing anything back. What I failed to mention earlier is the reason they don't want to progress is that they would have to follow the club licencing guidelines that senior clubs do. Some of the bigger junior clubs regularly attract larger crowds than a lot of lower league seniors. Yet they don't have to employ stewards , their grounds don't have to pass safety standards , etc. We played at Bonnyrigg a few seasons ago and some local neds tried to wind up the Brechin support. It was our committee who had to try and stop any trouble. Also, especially in the Ayrshire leagues we occasionally see pictures of crowd disturbances , bottles of bucky being thrown etc when rivals meet. Everyone laughs and says ach it's just the juniors. It seems they are having their cake and eating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, slangs said: No matter what level each club has it's own agenda and we are no different. The pyramid doesn't work so clubs r forced to behave the way they do The pyramid was just introduced a couple of seasons ago so it is too early to judge if it is or is not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slangs Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Correct me if I'm wrong there is ment to b a drip feed to the bottom clubs to help allow them to continue but no further than div 2 ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slangs Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Cmon original keep me right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theycallmetrinity Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I think the point that the Hedge is trying to make is. If Brechin got the big draw the majority of money raised would have to be put back into keeping the Glebe up to standard. Very little money would get put back into the team.Junior clubs can put all their money into buying players. If that's not taking money from the senior game then I don't know what is.Montrose Roselea have changed leagues because they fancy their chances of winning the north league just to get into the Scottish cup for more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasps1 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 If you enter the cup and get a home tie you should play it at your home park If your park isn't up to sfa standard you shouldn't be allowed in the cup simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 9 hours ago, Wasps1 said: If you enter the cup and get a home tie you should play it at your home park If your park isn't up to sfa standard you shouldn't be allowed in the cup simple Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slangs Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 There are junior clubs with excellent facilities that could take a "bigger " tie so it's ok for them to b entered into the cup even though they might spend on players ??.should Albion rovers be allowed to play at another stadium?.I was at their ground recently and it certainly doesn't look like they spend much on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, slangs said: There are junior clubs with excellent facilities that could take a "bigger " tie so it's ok for them to b entered into the cup even though they might spend on players ??.should Albion rovers be allowed to play at another stadium?.I was at their ground recently and it certainly doesn't look like they spend much on it If as you say the junior grounds meet criteria to host games then yes let them compete. For them to play at the likes of Tynecastle is just taking the piss though. As for Albion I just don't understand why they got to shift their tie. As you say they don't seem to spend a lot but they must do enough to gain their licence. There does seem to be rules for some and rules for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theycallmetrinity Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 If you enter the cup and get a home tie you should play it at your home park If your park isn't up to sfa standard you shouldn't be allowed in the cup simple Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theycallmetrinity Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 There are junior clubs with excellent facilities that could take a "bigger " tie so it's ok for them to b entered into the cup even though they might spend on players ??.should Albion rovers be allowed to play at another stadium?.I was at their ground recently and it certainly doesn't look like they spend much on it No, Albion should not have been allowed to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slangs Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Because they're not abiding by the rules?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Richard Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Forgive me but is this not the Brechin City season thread? It has gone waaaaay off topic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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