AR851903 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 A wee bit to go yet, but it'll be interesting to see what farce the split brings this year. Expect more delays to the release of the fixtures and at least one club to be unhappy. Aberdeen are due 3 home games - which going by the current Top 6 should mean Celtic A St Johnstone A Ross County H Hearts H Motherwell H If Dundee make the Top 6 then we might end up with 3 home or away to Dundee and Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Bhoy Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Celtic will also be due 3 home fixtures. Not sure of who we are due them against other than we are due 1 at home to Aberdeen & 1 away to Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Haven't looked at the top 6, but looked at potential bottom 6 yesterday (as it's more likely to be relevant to us).If the league finishes as is then the only change that needs to be made is Dundee to come to Firhill a 3rd time. Everyone ends up with 19 home and away games. If Dundee replace Motherwell in the top 6 then it gets messy and I can't see a way to get all the fixtures to balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connorc_hmfc14 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Celtic H Aberdeen A Ross County H St Johnstone A Motherwell A or Dundee H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryKillie97 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Just spent about 10 mins of my Monday afternoon calculating this so please appreciate my efforts... Going by the table rn and fixtures to come, I think the battle for 6th will involve Well + Dundee. So going by the fixtures we've played (and yes, ik this won't be the way the SPFL cronies will base their decisions on), we'll be due 3 home/2 away games if Motherwell finish 7th. If Dundee finish 7th, then we'll be due 2 home/3 away games. If Well finish 7th : Partick (H) Hamilton (A) Dundee Utd (H) Motherwell (H) ICT (A) If Dundee finish 7th : Partick (H) Hamilton (A) Dundee Utd (H) Dundee (A) ICT (A) That's the logical process but I guarantee that will not be the final fixtures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Due 3 home games after the split: Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts, Dundee, Partick Thistle, Inverness CT. Due 3 away games after the split: St Johnstone, Ross County, Motherwell, Hamilton, Kilmarnock, Dundee United. Celtic, Aberdeen and Hearts are guaranteed to finish in the top 6, so if Dundee, Partick Thistle and/or Inverness also finish in the top half there is guaranteed to be an imbalance of home/away fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Celtic H Aberdeen A Ross County H St Johnstone A Motherwell A or Dundee H We are due 3 home games. If Motherwell finish top six then either them, Aberdeen or St Johnstone will have to play an extra game at Tynecastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AR851903 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 We are due 3 home games. If Motherwell finish top six then either them, Aberdeen or St Johnstone will have to play an extra game at Tynecastle. Would be surprised if Aberdeen had to go to Tynecastle 3 times. Then again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_sjfc Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Saints will have played 17 home/16 away by the split, if things stay as they are we will be due to play Celtic, Hearts, and Aberdeen at home, and Motherwell and Ross County away. Celtic came to Perth 3 times last season so Saints may get to enjoy the delights of a third trip to Parkhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 There are too many variables right now to predict the fixtures but the rules the SP(F)L have used have generally been consistent. 1. Every team plays at least 2 home and 2 away post split. 2. If It is possible for every team to play 19h 19a then the fixtures will produce that 3. A minimum number of changes to the expected fixtures is preferred So if the top 6 finishes like it is then Motherwell will have perfect fixtures. Home: Hearts, St Johnstone Away: Celtic, Aberdeen, Ross County That would make it unlikely that our fixtures would be changed since it would require two changes to rebalance home and aways but you can't tell without looking at every club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_sjfc Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 They surely can't do any worse than they did with Saints 2011/12 post split fixture where 4 out of 5 of the fixtures involved a team making a third visit to an away ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Doing it quickly if the top 6 stays as is then the changes will be Celtic get Ross County home 3 times Hearts get St Johnstone home 3 times That is the only way the fixtures balance with 2 changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Would be surprised if Aberdeen had to go to Tynecastle 3 times. Then again... Hope it doesn't come to that and Motherwell finish top six by taking points off Aberdeen and Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Useful list for reference if they have fixture imbalances. They will try to give uneven splits to teams that have benefited or been hindered in the past. For example, Killie or Motherwell would be candidates for a 20/18 and Aberdeen for an 18/20, although obviously that would cause a fuss this season! Do think it's too early to be taking anything for granted regarding halves though. 20/18 Splits 3 occasions: Aberdeen (05/06, 07/08, 09/10)1 occasion: St Johnstone (01/02) ICT (04/05) Falkirk (06/07) Killie (11/12) Hibernian (13/14) Dundee (14/15) 18/20 Splits 2 occasions: Aberdeen (04/05, 13/14) Killie (06/07, 14/15) 1 occasion: Livingston (01/02) ICT (05/06) Gretna (07/08) Motherwell (09/10) St Johnstone (11/12) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 1. Every team plays at least 2 home and 2 away post split. Except in 2007-08, of course. With home games costing Gretna more money than aways, they received 4 A in a row, then Hearts (biggest support in Bottom 6) at H...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Except in 2007-08, of course. With home games costing Gretna more money than aways, they received 4 A in a row, then Hearts (biggest support in Bottom 6) at H...!! Outlier situations like Gretna is why the actual rules of how the split games are worked out will never be published. Better to keep as much flexibility as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AR851903 Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 At least Gretna signed off with a win 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wright scores Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Useful list for reference if they have fixture imbalances. They will try to give uneven splits to teams that have benefited or been hindered in the past. For example, Killie or Motherwell would be candidates for a 20/18 and Aberdeen for an 18/20, although obviously that would cause a fuss this season! Do think it's too early to be taking anything for granted regarding halves though. 20/18 Splits 3 occasions: Aberdeen (05/06, 07/08, 09/10)1 occasion: St Johnstone (01/02) ICT (04/05) Falkirk (06/07) Killie (11/12) Hibernian (13/14) Dundee (14/15) 18/20 Splits 2 occasions: Aberdeen (04/05, 13/14) Killie (06/07, 14/15) 1 occasion: Livingston (01/02) ICT (05/06) Gretna (07/08) Motherwell (09/10) St Johnstone (11/12) Funny how neither of the twisted sisters have been impacted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 It's not that surprising given that the integrity of the title race takes top priority when deciding these fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wright scores Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 It's not that surprising given that the integrity of the title race takes top priority when deciding these fixtures. Is integrity not a factor when considering relegation too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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