General Politics Thread

[Jmothecat2 673]

Pish.  Salmond's programme is independently produced with an independent editorial team and without interference from RT management, often taking an anti-Putin stance (as when Salmond dedicated a show to LGBT issues in Russia, for instance).  You're parroting the unionist line promoted by those well-known paragons of free and entirely neutral speech at BBC Scotland, The Daily Telegraph, Mail and Herald.

That's not the point. It still features pro-Putin propaganda plastered along the screen and RT uses people like Salmond to give legitimacy to the channel and by extension Putin. The viewership is very low on the channel because the aim is to have clips which can be easily shown and shared on social media which is how it gets its message across. This isn't a unionist vs nationalist thing, Salmond's involvement with RT has been criticised by many in the SNP including Nicola Sturgeon and Ian Blackford.

[Antlion 775]

Tory bot on Daily Politics: “no country would allow itself to become subject to a foreign jurisdiction”.

Except Scotland, obviously. And he thinks it worked out wonderfully.

[John Lambies Doos 1,619]

It's amazing that the Tory mess of brexit and it's bitch slapping by the EU has barely been mentioned over the last 2 weeks

[bob the tank 526]

His willingness to appear on Putin's propaganda channel is.

Wow, just wow.... I am stunned that a supposedly politically switched on person is actually posting that comment. Get your red/blue tory blinkers off and see what is really happening in our precious union now.

[bob the tank 526]

Tory bot on Daily Politics: “no country would allow itself to become subject to a foreign jurisdiction”.
Except Scotland, obviously. And he thinks it worked out wonderfully.

And once more the voice of the lunatic foaming brexiteers Bernard Jenkin is given the daily politics platform to spout his pish.

[NotThePars 2,232]

I’m neither right or left. I’m a centrist. Both sides have some decent points of view and some awful ones.

Call me cynical but Dempster was only fired because he was caught being racist. He wasn’t fired for being a racist.
He should have stuck to the party line and called Alex Salmond’s wife fat and barren and kept the racist slurs to his own house.

The remarks were stupid and shocking and he should have known better.  He will hopefully be disciplined for them.
I am a wee bit concerned that there is a wider view that Islamaphobia and racism are the same thing; they are not.
 

Hard to work out who’s managed to make a more pointless post here.

[Granny Danger 7,862]

17 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

 

 

Hard to work out who’s managed to make a more pointless post here.

 

 

It’s you.  HTH.

 

[Baxter Parp 913]

1 hour ago, Jmothecat2 said:

That's not the point. It still features pro-Putin propaganda plastered along the screen

 

 

I doubt you've watched RT longer than the time it takes to change the channel so I'm curious as to how you know this.

1 hour ago, Jmothecat2 said:

 This isn't a unionist vs nationalist thing, Salmond's involvement with RT has been criticised by many in the SNP including Nicola Sturgeon and Ian Blackford.

 

 

So?  Salmond isn't a politician, he can do what he likes so long as it's legal.  All you're doing is repeating the line spread by our domestic media's propaganda.

Case in point:

The propaganda:  Blackford condemns Salmond

The actuality:  No he doesn't.

Edited March 19 by Baxter Parp

[NotThePars 2,232]

5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

It’s you.  HTH.

 

 

Zing. I'm sure your worry over your inability to slag off Muslims is of more concern than the restricting of their civil rights, the spread of programs like Prevent and their targeting by Islamophobic hate groups like the EDL and Britain First.

[Jmothecat2 673]

So?  Salmond isn't a politician, he can do what he likes so long as it's legal.  All you're doing is repeating the line spread by our domestic media's propaganda.
Case in point:
The propaganda:  Blackford condemns Salmond
The actuality:  No he doesn't.

I've watched RT (out of curiosity) before. I won't be doing so again. Being a private citizen doesn't make them immune to criticism. And he's the former First Minister so he's hardly just any ordinary citizen, if he were you wouldn't bother defending him.

[Baxter Parp 913]

7 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said:

I've watched RT (out of curiosity) before. I won't be doing so again. Being a private citizen doesn't make them immune to criticism. And he's the former First Minister so he's hardly just any ordinary citizen, if he were you wouldn't bother defending him.

 

 

I was comparing the outrageous behaviour of the Tories with the manufactured outrage over Slamond's show, actually.  That we've ended up discussing Salmond rather than this utter disgrace:

proves my point, I think.

[DA Baracus 6,395]

1 hour ago, Jmothecat2 said:

 

That's not the point. It still features pro-Putin propaganda plastered along the screen and RT uses people like Salmond to give legitimacy to the channel and by extension Putin. The viewership is very low on the channel because the aim is to have clips which can be easily shown and shared on social media which is how it gets its message across. This isn't a unionist vs nationalist thing, Salmond's involvement with RT has been criticised by many in the SNP including Nicola Sturgeon and Ian Blackford.

 

Swap out 'Putin' for any number of high ranking Tories and you've just described BBC News.

[Jmothecat2 673]

Swap out 'Putin' for any number of high ranking Tories and you've just described BBC News.

Do you believe RT and BBC are as biased as one another?

[Baxter Parp 913]

4 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said:

Do you believe RT and BBC are as biased as one another?

 

 

What do you think?

[DA Baracus 6,395]

13 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said:

 

Do you believe RT and BBC are as biased as one another?

 

Not sure, but they are both definitely quite bad for it.

[welshbairn 7,250]

15 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said:

What do you think?

Quote

Can I say anything more about the substance of the conversation? X talked explicitly and unambiguously about how criticisms of Corbyn that the BBC could not voice were deliberately coded into imagery. X did not say that this was a general policy of the BBC or that there was some institutional directive to ‘smear’ Jeremy Corbyn. X clearly understood that X’s comments were sensitive for the BBC (see 3. above). [Note: my understanding of the BBC’s news/current affairs/politics output is that it is relatively heterodox.]

https://waitingfortax.com/2018/03/19/the-bbc-and-jeremy-corbyn/

[John Lambies Doos 1,619]

Are we at war with Eurasia again; I thought it was Oceania. It's terribly confusing

[NotThePars 2,232]

George Orwell. Great writer.

[John Lambies Doos 1,619]

George Orwell. Great writer.

One of the best. The DR vow back in 2014 picturing Cameron, Milliband and Clegg always reminds me of the last paragraph in Animal Farm.

[JamieThomas 2,715]

3 hours ago, Jmothecat2 said:

This isn't a unionist vs nationalist thing

 

Yeah but it is tho.