NotThePars Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Did Corbyn ever say how he voted? Why are centrist conspiracy theories always heavy unimaginative? Isn't Russia normally a thing with you lads? Bring them in somehow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Why are centrist conspiracy theories always heavy unimaginative? Isn't Russia normally a thing with you lads? Bring them in somehow. It was an honest question, I didn't know. Seems he says he voted Remain and would do again in a second referendum. Could have fooled me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 It was an honest question, I didn't know. Seems he says he voted Remain and would do again in a second referendum. Could have fooled me. He consistently voted against the EU with every opportunity he had until he became leader, then claims to have voted remain but went on holiday during the crucial part of the campaign, and has seemed slightly unclear about his views ever since. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 That's more like it. Just need to find the guy who claimed he had definitive proof that Corbyn voted Leave and we have it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, NotThePars said: That's more like it. Just need to find the guy who claimed he had definitive proof that Corbyn voted Leave and we have it. Being as he's got Labour to vote with the Government on the issue at every opportunity since the referendum it's not an out there conclusion to draw. I'll take his word on it though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 My mum is 57 and votes SNP, as does my dad who is 62 Both voted remain. Both voted yes in 2014. I however voted the same way as your mum and step dad in each election. My Team: Rangers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Contrarian/concern trolling? There's some amount of pish posted on here but that's impressive. I quite like Jim sillars, and certainly thinks he makes some very good points. On a politics thread I tried to defend him. Would you prefer me to nod along?"Aye right enough, that old b*****d should just be ignored" (followed by gif of old cardigan guy being shoved out the door). Is that a description of Sillars or Oaksoft? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 What's the connection between Grangemouth and the SNP? That's quite a defensive stance... I'd have guessed that grangemouth supplies an awful lot of Scotland's fuels (edited for my ignorance)? So the Scottish government have banned fracking but Scotland itself is heavily reliant on power supplied from fracking? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 If other countries want to decimate their landscape and water supplies with fracking then let them. I'm glad the SNP blocked its implementation here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 That's quite a defensive stance...I'd have guessed that grangemouth supplies an awful lot of Scotland's power? So the Scottish government have banned fracking but Scotland itself is heavily reliant on power supplied from fracking? The fracked oil is for consumer goods made by the owners of the various refineries in grangemouth, nothing to do with power, the majority of which is now being produced by renewables 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 That's quite a defensive stance...I'd have guessed that grangemouth supplies an awful lot of Scotland's power? So the Scottish government have banned fracking but Scotland itself is heavily reliant on power supplied from fracking? Grangemouth is an oil refinery. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 If other countries want to decimate their landscape and water supplies with fracking then let them. I'm glad the SNP blocked its implementation here. I'm glad they did too. But that's a pretty strange position for us to be in. It's a legitimate point for sillars to be making. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 The fracked oil is for consumer goods made by the owners of the various refineries in grangemouth, nothing to do with power, the majority of which is now being produced by renewables What consumer goods? Petrol? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 What consumer goods? Petrol? Plastics, paints etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Plastics, paints etc Ahh, OK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, pandarilla said: That's quite a defensive stance... I'd have guessed that grangemouth supplies an awful lot of Scotland's power? (snigger) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 That's quite a defensive stance...I'd have guessed that grangemouth supplies an awful lot of Scotland's power? So the Scottish government have banned fracking but Scotland itself is heavily reliant on power supplied from fracking? If other countries want to decimate their landscape and water supplies with fracking then let them. I'm glad the SNP blocked its implementation here. Exactly this.Let that p***k Ratcliffe get richer at someone else's expense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 It's been said that Sillars would start a fight in an empty room and as I've looked and listened over the last few decades, it certainly seems to me that through the ages he has made arguments that have been robust. But, there's always a but, there are reasons why he found himself sidelined in favour of Salmond. His comments today on Nicola Sturgeon speak of a needless recalcitrant nature that have obviously limited him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I still think that a huge refinery in the country importing fracked gas whilst the government takes a moral stance on the issue is not a great look. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 How much can the government reasonably do about it? I'm not being cheeky I genuinely haven't a clue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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