NotThePars Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Hamas deliberately targets unarmed civilians with rockets. Israel does not hide its weapons and explosives in hospitals. Hamas is quite literally using injured people and children as human shields. There's no need to hide your weapons in hospitals when you have modern state of the art bombing equipment, US backing and a near total blockade on your enemy lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 It really beats me why anybody would think the Tories are financially competent. They practically wreck the economy every time they get near Westminster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Because not everyone is so narrow-minded they automatically believe shite they find on the Internet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Because not everyone is so narrow-minded they automatically believe shite they find on the Internet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Just cashed in my small bet after seeing a picture of the Tory candidate. He looks about 12. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: He looks about 12. Future leader of the party no doubt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I'm going to put a fiver on a Labour double. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, jmothecat said: I'm going to put a fiver on a Labour double. make it an each way double 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I'm going to put a fiver on a Labour double. To lose/lose ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Free money. Labour are going to take both seats fairly handsomely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, jmothecat said: Free money. Labour are going to take both seats fairly handsomely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Insanely good how easily jmo works the marks on here. Keep it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, DI Bruce Robertson said: How do you know that Israel doesn't hide these weapons in hospitals? The only acceptable answer will be that you have inspected ALL premises. I'm not getting into a whataboutery session with you, Hamas have their faults & are obviously a determined opposition to the Jewish state and will countenance any method to achieve this, but what separates their ideology to that of Israel regarding the 2 state option? Which Hamas want. Hamas do not want a 2-state solution. You are talking absolute shite. Their founding document commits them to the obliteration and dissolution of the State of Israel. You know that claim is gibberish. Absolutely there are politicians in the Israeli State who advocate a one-state solution. But the position of the Israeli Government is still in support of the two-state solution. Hamas is an inherently genocidal organisation. Its objects are genocide. The State of Israel absolutely has its faults but it does not rely, as a military strategy, upon the deliberate targetting of civilians with the intention to maximise those casualties. Absolutely individual Israeli soldiers have committed war crimes and they should be prosecuted. As this case shows, some are. Hamas celebrates the war crimes they commit and they use the threat of violence to use injured people and children in hospitals and schools as human shields to prevent Israel from aiming at purely military targets. Their aim is to maximise the collateral of conflict both for Palestinians and Israelis. That is categorically not the objective of the IDF. If Hamas were honestly concerned with resisting the occupation and siege of the settlements and the IDF, they would prioritise military targets in the occupied territories. They don't. They aim rockets at Tel-Aviv. 5 hours ago, NotThePars said: There's no need to hide your weapons in hospitals when you have modern state of the art bombing equipment, US backing and a near total blockade on your enemy lol. This argument is the moral equivalent of saying America wouldn't need Guantanamo if the Constitution just permitted detention and torture in Delaware. Edited February 22, 2017 by Ad Lib 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 This argument is the moral equivalent of saying America wouldn't need Guantanamo if the Constitution just permitted detention and torture in Delaware. Naw it isnae. The point is the Israelis don't have resort to, obviously objectionable, guerilla tactics when they're the occupier armed to the teeth and sending troops and missiles all over the Strip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 31 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Naw it isnae. The point is the Israelis don't have resort to, obviously objectionable, guerilla tactics when they're the occupier armed to the teeth and sending troops and missiles all over the Strip. These aren't "guerilla tactics". They are war crimes. War crimes are never acceptable and therefore are never necessary. If they are never necessary no one ever "has to resort to" them. Necessity is not a defence to deliberately targeting civilians to try to maximise casualties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 And I didn't say it was I just can't be gassed trying to find the correct term. You're doing your usual thing where you think that a government sticking to the law absolves them of the abhorrent shit that they're doing and you're sounding like Robbie Travers in the process. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: These aren't "guerilla tactics". They are war crimes. War crimes are never acceptable and therefore are never necessary. If they are never necessary no one ever "has to resort to" them. Necessity is not a defence to deliberately targeting civilians to try to maximise casualties. Aimlessly hitting fields isn't targeting civilians, that's crap technology. Targeting civilians is when you bomb a block of flats hoping an enemy is there, knowing the likely collateral damage. The murdered Palestinian wasn't targeting civilians, he attacked armed soldiers with a knife. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: Insanely good how easily jmo works the marks on here. Keep it up. Hurry up & die please, you sycophant. Just saying. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 10 hours ago, Ad Lib said: Hamas deliberately targets unarmed civilians with rockets. Israel does not hide its weapons and explosives in hospitals. Hamas is quite literally using injured people and children as human shields. I watched the last bombing campaign, in Gaza and the one in Lebanon. It was sickening and had absolutely nothing to do with all these human shields. They have cut off a very thin strip of land, destroyed all the infrastructure, killed their economy and every few years or so will bomb another 4 or 5 thousands civilians to bits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Hurry up & die please, you sycophant. Just saying. [emoji51] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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