Fide Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 It's just incredible to think that a significant member of the Labour Party actually had to try to defend comments talking about how Hitler was a Zionist, or using the phrase 'before he [Hitler] went mad.' He then locked himself in the toilets to get away from journalists. During an anti-semitism controversy involving your own party you decide to bring up Hitler? There's going to be a shit-ton of spectacular political memoirs published in the next couple of decades. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Hitler did support the Zionists though, bit ill considered to bring it up. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0008_0_08075.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 #scenes https://twitter.com/dats/status/725641756407111680 Quote There are now more MPs calling on Ken Livingstone to be suspended than voted for Corbyn to be on ballot last yr... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysouth Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 No. Today's 'Daily Politics' was incredible. This. If anybody hasn't seen it catch it on iplayer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Labour Party in disarray by the sounds of it https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/725665045317701632 Don't think Naz Shah is alone in her views across certain sections of the Labour Party though! They are absolutely miles away from what stood as the old traditional Labour values. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Hitler did support the Zionists though, bit ill considered to bring it up. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0008_0_08075.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/politics/news/74383/diane-abbott-deletes-pro-livingstone-tweets-minutes-after-his-suspension Diane Abbott deleted tweets endorsing Ken Livingstone minutes after he was suspended from the party over allegations of anti-Semitism, PoliticsHome can reveal. The Shadow International Development Secretary leapt into action as the controversy threatened to engulf the party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/politics/news/74383/diane-abbott-deletes-pro-livingstone-tweets-minutes-after-his-suspension I've noticed she has also deleted a bunch of mundane normal tweets too, I'm guessing in an attempt to make it look like she wasn't just deleting the Livingstone ones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipped Flake Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Hitler did support the Zionists though, bit ill considered to bring it up. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0008_0_08075.html sadly when it comes to anything to do with Israel, speaking the truth is not allowed -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Has any political party ever been in a worse shape than today's Labour party? Nope,we have just had the Hillsborough court case (tories bad) the junior doctors strike (tories bad) and its all about Labour being anti jew (thats what it looks like) Its fucking hilarious 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 Corbin caving into pressure from the Zionist lobby is only making the Labour Party look weak. I'm no big fan of Ken Livingstone but I agree with both these points he made. "I've heard a lot of people being critical of Israel, but if I was to denounce the South African government, you wouldn't say I was racist. "And one of my worries is this confusion with anti-Semitism and criticising the Israeli government policy undermines the importance is tackling real anti-Semitism." -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 You can be factually correct and still look a massive dick for bringing something up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Corbin caving into pressure from the Zionist lobby is only making the Labour Party look weak. I'm no big fan of Ken Livingstone but I agree with both these points he made. "I've heard a lot of people being critical of Israel, but if I was to denounce the South African government, you wouldn't say I was racist. "And one of my worries is this confusion with anti-Semitism and criticising the Israeli government policy undermines the importance is tackling real anti-Semitism." Yip ,hatchet job on Ken , how staged was the idiot Mann on the stairs shouting at him? As far as I understand it he was being interviewed about , Anti semitisim, Hitler comments and Israel on the radio , and said, Hitler supported the Zionist in 1933 before he went mad and killed them all. Sorry but that's just a matter of historical fact. Hitler and the Nazis supported the Zionists ,BUT not for the same reasons, for the Nazis it was the ideal way to get Jews out of Germany for purely Racist reasons, that doesn't mean Hitler was a Zionist ffs! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 You can be factually correct and still look a massive dick for bringing something up. Not if you're answering a question when someone brings it up first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Not if you're answering a question when someone brings it up first. Do you get a text when someone writes Zionist on here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Do you get a text when someone writes Zionist on here? Yes, but it must be slow, you were on here before me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Nope,we have just had the Hillsborough court case (tories bad) the junior doctors strike (tories bad) and its all about Labour being anti jew (thats what it looks like) Its fucking hilarious The Tories are in a complete mess. Osborne's budget was another nightmare for him. The Economy aint great, and they are, as usual , Europe tears them apart..again. Their only saving grace is Labour are not going to win with JC as their leader. England will never vote for him. Imagine the headlines in the Murdoch press. Still we can sit back an enjoy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Hitler was most definitely a Zionist. Some of the biggest Jew haters out there are Zionists. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 That joke about moving Israel to America, bit like floating the failed statelet into the Atlantic as suggested often on here. Hardly a resigning issue I would have thought, especially as she posted it before she was an Mp. I always thought there should be an Israeli state but they should have built it in Bavaria. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Yip ,hatchet job on Ken , how staged was the idiot Mann on the stairs shouting at him? As far as I understand it he was being interviewed about , Anti semitisim, Hitler comments and Israel on the radio , and said, Hitler supported the Zionist in 1933 before he went mad and killed them all. Sorry but that's just a matter of historical fact. No it isn't - that suggests that Hitler's support for Jewish resettlement was a policy entirely distinct from his 'mad' phase of implementing the Final Solution. Next to no credible historians have ever argued this to be the case. It also misreads a willingness to forcibly resettle Jews from Germany and the intended Greater German Empire - to Mongolia, Madagascar, Palestine or anywhere that was suitable - as 'support for Zionism'. Zionism was not merely a campaign for Jewish resettlement somewhere else, and at no point did the Zionist movement call for the forced expulsion of Jews from their homes and seizure of their property under a racist-eugenicist premise. So no, Hitler was not a supporter of the Zionist movement. Try again. Corbin caving into pressure from the Zionist lobby is only making the Labour Party look weak. I'm no big fan of Ken Livingstone but I agree with both these points he made. "I've heard a lot of people being critical of Israel, but if I was to denounce the South African government, you wouldn't say I was racist. "And one of my worries is this confusion with anti-Semitism and criticising the Israeli government policy undermines the importance is tackling real anti-Semitism." Needless to say I'm not surprised in the slightest to see you white knighting for the grubby anti-Semites that form an alarming section of the Labour and 'radical' left. The "Zionist lobby" indeed. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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