Sergeant Wilson Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: Quite possibly. Must be bad when you choose to jump in front of a train. That happened regularly when I was in London. Must have been 5-10 a year. Up here, not so much. Jumping in front of a train once would be bad enough. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Scary Bear said: Quite possibly. Must be bad when you choose to jump in front of a train. That happened regularly when I was in London. Must have been 5-10 a year. Up here, not so much. On the Inverness Wick line you'd probably die of boredom before the train came. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_14 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Hey ho, it's probably some c**t who decided the easy way out was to give some poor train driver nightmares. Well rid. Well, I would argue that said person wouldn’t exactly be thinking rationally at that point! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 4 hours ago, welshbairn said: On the Inverness Wick line you'd probably die of boredom before the train came. Theres been more than you think on that line. Brora seems to be a hotspot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Theres been more than you think on that line. Brora seems to be a hotspot. Well it is Brora 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Avoid the fife circle seemingly somebodys been struck by a train and has died about 20 mins ago One this morning between Dumfries and Annan. Grim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Paris Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: One this morning between Dumfries and Annan. Grim. Its worse when you find small bits of them afterwards. Do not miss working for NR. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Rover Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: One this morning between Dumfries and Annan. Grim. Oh dear. Related to the Carrutherstown incident? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Oh dear. Related to the Carrutherstown incident? You never know. Not quite sure what went on at Carrutherstown yesterday, very strange. Heard so many rumours as is always the case with Dumfries! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: One this morning between Dumfries and Annan. Grim. I'm sorry to hear that. Should we start a fund? Edited December 23, 2017 by Sergeant Wilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 A perhaps timely bump to this thread given the recent price ‘scandal’. The good folks of scotrail have charged me for my tickets twice. Great bunch of lads. On the 27th of December I received a letter with vouchers which I could redeem to the cash value. So, it took an age, too many emails and a few phone calls but I finally have my money back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Recent poll showing overwhelming support for rail services to be renationalised. Hardly any coverage of the revelation by Lord Adonis that the government is going to bail out a couple of private operators to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds even though they have no obligation to do so, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Recent poll showing overwhelming support for rail services to be renationalised. Hardly any coverage of the revelation by Lord Adonis that the government is going to bail out a couple of private operators to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds even though they have no obligation to do so, I never understood why they were "privatised" in the first place, still costing the tax payer millions, may as well have left it in public ownership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Easy coast mainline made money as a nationalised company. Bailed out yet again. It's amazing how quickly money can be found when it is for Branson or a bank.Sent from my SM-A320FL using Pie and Bovril mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: I never understood why they were "privatised" in the first place, still costing the tax payer millions, may as well have left it in public ownership. Ideological bullshit which had the added attraction to the Tories of syphoning off taxpayers money to their friends and supporters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Ideological bullshit which had the added attraction to the Tories of syphoning off taxpayers money to their friends and supporters. Aye, I knew that was the reasoning, I just don't think the UK is big enough for 10/12/15 "competing" rail services, which are supposedly private but actually subsidised by the taxpayer. If you're going to subsidise it you might as well do it straight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochSonsFan Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 It's arguable that there's absolutely no competition on the railways beyond the west coast vs east coast main lines between Scotland and England. You can choose Glasgow Central via the west coast or Edinburgh via the east. For everything else? It's the absolute opposite of competition. It's monopoly. There's no competition in Scotland. If I want to get a train in Scotland then the only provider I can use is Abelio Scotrail. I can't pick and choose which train operator I use because there's only 1 covering the whole of Scotland. Competition has been an absolute failure. The railways should be re-nationalised. There is absolutely no argument to support rail franchising. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I got the train from Aberdeen to Fife and return journey around Christmas time on a Virgin train? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, NJ2 said: I got the train from Aberdeen to Fife and return journey around Christmas time on a Virgin train? And the West Coast line up to Glasgow. They're c***s though, if you have an open return from Inverness to Perth and you jump on a Virgin train for the return leg they won't accept the ticket, unless you get a decent guard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 09:13, Granny Danger said: Recent poll showing overwhelming support for rail services to be renationalised. Hardly any coverage of the revelation by Lord Adonis that the government is going to bail out a couple of private operators to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds even though they have no obligation to do so, The second point is figures being twisted for a political point. VTEC asked to renegotiate the contract that they operate under because the Government has not delivered the infrastructure they agreed to when they entered into the franchise. This allowed it to pay the premiums required in future years with longer new trains. The government decided the best course of action was to 'take back the keys' if you will to settle the argument. No money is been given to VTEC so there is no bailout, the franchise is being terminated early. Sure, they won't make the future payments, but someone else will although likely not as much but that is mainly the fault of the public side of the industry. For avoidance of doubt VTEC paid £272m in 2017, the public East Coast paid £215m in 2015. On nationalisation, I think it is a simplistic argument for a complex issue that for me doesn't address the core issues at play and opens up a host of questions. Where does the money come from to do this? Do we nationalise everything including ROSCOs and prevent use of private maintenance firms? Privatisation is not an ideal system and can be improved, but nationisation and exposure to short-termist politicians and even more exposure to government budgets and micromanagement isn't in my view the answer. In 1990s people hardly loved BR and still complained about high fares! The high fares issue is entirely on government policy. They believe that railway passengers should pay the costs not taxpayers. If they wanted to reduce fares they could, but would have to find the money from somewhere or raise taxes! It's not the private operators. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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