Cille Mhernaig Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: Probably what's been mentioned above. You seem to have been unlucky with your TE/Guard re. being charged peak on an off-peak. FWIW she was within her right to do that if you've come from a station with ticket selling facilities. "Buy before you board" scheme. I think that's to be pushed soon which will be great fun on our line. But as it stands I'm not aware anyone implements it on our route. The only other suggestion would be to ask for advanced tickets at your booking office if you know exactly what days you're travelling. Yeah could tell straight away she was gonna hit me with peak charge as she is the type that was properly inspecting tickets, i.e. looking at them, taking them off people and scoring with a pen to show they've been used when 90% were going to be swallowed up by the barrier at central. I know that technically she was correct, it was just the computer says no attitude when I explained why I didn't buy at the station. That coupled with the fact her genuine suggestion was to stay in the queue at the station, miss the train and wait 30 minutes for the next one if I wanted a cheap day return that day that got my back up. If I boarded at a station where the trains were more frequent then I'd have no complaints as I made the choice to chance it rather than wait, but outlying stations where it is a 2 train an hour service, I don't think so. Fingers crossed though Flexipass solves my issues and I can wander to the station at whatever time I like going forward with my only concern being if there are any metros left at the station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Scotrail's busiest cattle trucks, Full story in link but list is; http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39442233 The top 10 busiest trains in Scotland: 1. Edinburgh-Glasgow Central via Shotts, 17:21. Planned loading passengers - 185. Maximum capacity recorded - 270 (146%) 2. Glasgow Central-East Kilbride, 17:01 during the summer. Planned loading passengers - 185. Maximum capacity recorded - 249 (135%) 3. Neilston-Glasgow Central, 08:07. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 375 (133%) 4. Neilston-Glasgow Central, 08:24. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 367 (130%) 5. Edinburgh-Glenrothes w/Thornton, via Dunfermline, 17:53. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 337 (120%) 6. Balloch-Airdrie, 07:07. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 333 (119%) 7. Edinburgh-Dunblane, 16:03. Planned loading passengers - 273. Maximum capacity recorded - 323 (118%) 8. Glasgow Central-East Kilbride, 18:47. Planned loading passengers - 185. Maximum capacity recorded - 212 (115%) 9. East Kilbride-Glasgow Central, 07:59. Planned loading passengers - 555. Maximum capacity recorded - 624 (115%) 10. Dalmuir-Larkhall, 08:18. Planned loading passengers- 281. Maximum capacity recorded - 305 (109%) Hope no-one endures these ones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) Bit annoyed at having to pay £25 return from Inverness to Elgin over the weekend for a Clach game v Vale. A return to Nairn is about £6. Edited March 30, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 There's also no 'arrive by' by option on the app anymore, only 'depart after'. It's absolutely hopeless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Woolshed Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I'm probably completely missing the point. But in their findings they have the Edinburgh Waverley - Glasgow Central as the one running at the highest % over capacity. It also runs with just 2 carriages. Now I know they're short of excess carriages but surely they could make this a 3 or even 4 carriage train? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Scotrail's busiest cattle trucks, Full story in link but list is;http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39442233 The top 10 busiest trains in Scotland: 1. Edinburgh-Glasgow Central via Shotts, 17:21. Planned loading passengers - 185. Maximum capacity recorded - 270 (146%) 2. Glasgow Central-East Kilbride, 17:01 during the summer. Planned loading passengers - 185. Maximum capacity recorded - 249 (135%) 3. Neilston-Glasgow Central, 08:07. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 375 (133%) 4. Neilston-Glasgow Central, 08:24. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 367 (130%) 5. Edinburgh-Glenrothes w/Thornton, via Dunfermline, 17:53. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 337 (120%) 6. Balloch-Airdrie, 07:07. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 333 (119%) 7. Edinburgh-Dunblane, 16:03. Planned loading passengers - 273. Maximum capacity recorded - 323 (118%) 8. Glasgow Central-East Kilbride, 18:47. Planned loading passengers - 185. Maximum capacity recorded - 212 (115%) 9. East Kilbride-Glasgow Central, 07:59. Planned loading passengers - 555. Maximum capacity recorded - 624 (115%) 10. Dalmuir-Larkhall, 08:18. Planned loading passengers- 281. Maximum capacity recorded - 305 (109%) Hope no-one endures these ones. The 16.33 Edinburgh to Perth train is the last off peak train. It has 2 carriages and is regularly cattle truck conditions. I'm surprised it didn't make the list. It's one of those tired '80s style/early '90s style trains too. Just horrible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) This app man. Apparently you can't buy tickets for Edinburgh to Inverness because they're not valid destinations Edited March 31, 2017 by RiG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 The update to the Scotrail app is a shiter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 On 30/03/2017 at 15:29, MEADOWXI said: Scotrail's busiest cattle trucks, Full story in link but list is; http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39442233 The top 10 busiest trains in Scotland: 1. Edinburgh-Glasgow Central via Shotts, 17:21. Planned loading passengers - 185. Maximum capacity recorded - 270 (146%) 2. Glasgow Central-East Kilbride, 17:01 during the summer. Planned loading passengers - 185. Maximum capacity recorded - 249 (135%) 3. Neilston-Glasgow Central, 08:07. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 375 (133%) 4. Neilston-Glasgow Central, 08:24. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 367 (130%) 5. Edinburgh-Glenrothes w/Thornton, via Dunfermline, 17:53. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 337 (120%) 6. Balloch-Airdrie, 07:07. Planned loading passengers - 282. Maximum capacity recorded - 333 (119%) 7. Edinburgh-Dunblane, 16:03. Planned loading passengers - 273. Maximum capacity recorded - 323 (118%) 8. Glasgow Central-East Kilbride, 18:47. Planned loading passengers - 185. Maximum capacity recorded - 212 (115%) 9. East Kilbride-Glasgow Central, 07:59. Planned loading passengers - 555. Maximum capacity recorded - 624 (115%) 10. Dalmuir-Larkhall, 08:18. Planned loading passengers- 281. Maximum capacity recorded - 305 (109%) Hope no-one endures these ones. I get on and off these trains at Giffnock most days and it's nothing short of a f*cking shambles every day. The 07:59 gets to Giffnock at 8.16 folk are already having to stand. By Thornliebank and Pollokshaws West you're squeezed right in with folk piling in the doors at the last second. I can't understand how the train conductors don't report how bad an issue it is. There's a part between Thornliebank and Pollokshaws West where two train lines join and there's a 'jolt' at that point. Often puts people who are on their feet on their arse as they've nothing to hold on to since it's so crammed. About 18 months ago I was on the 8.16 into Glasgow. Approaching Crossmyloof and we're told the train in front is stuck as its brakes have seized. Sat on the train line before Crossmyloof for an hour and 20 minutes, every carriage literally filled with no room for movement. As you can imagine it got very hot and stuffy amongst the people standing up which caused a couple of people to faint. It's a massive health and safety risk that needs to be addressed immediately although it'll never happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I can't understand how the train conductors don't report how bad an issue it is. They probably will tbh. And even if they didn't they more than likely wouldn't be able to get through the train to sell tickets and if that was happening every day on the same service it would surely flag up. Either way, I'd say it's not the conductors who are failing to deal with this particular issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cille Mhernaig Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Scosha said: I get on and off these trains at Giffnock most days and it's nothing short of a f*cking shambles every day. The 07:59 gets to Giffnock at 8.16 folk are already having to stand. By Thornliebank and Pollokshaws West you're squeezed right in with folk piling in the doors at the last second. I can't understand how the train conductors don't report how bad an issue it is. There's a part between Thornliebank and Pollokshaws West where two train lines join and there's a 'jolt' at that point. Often puts people who are on their feet on their arse as they've nothing to hold on to since it's so crammed. About 18 months ago I was on the 8.16 into Glasgow. Approaching Crossmyloof and we're told the train in front is stuck as its brakes have seized. Sat on the train line before Crossmyloof for an hour and 20 minutes, every carriage literally filled with no room for movement. As you can imagine it got very hot and stuffy amongst the people standing up which caused a couple of people to faint. It's a massive health and safety risk that needs to be addressed immediately although it'll never happen. The 18:06 to Neilston train used to be dangerously overcrowded, however they have recently turned it into a 6 carriage train so not anywhere near as bad as it was. I'd love to see the maximum capacity figures for that service before they added the extra 3 carriages. Might be worth sending a tweet every few days to Scotrail if the service is full as it may make them pay more attention to these figures and get coupe of extra carriages added to the service. Hopefully not at the expense of the extra carriages on the 18:06 Neilston service mind you. 35 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: They probably will tbh. And even if they didn't they more than likely wouldn't be able to get through the train to sell tickets and if that was happening every day on the same service it would surely flag up. Either way, I'd say it's not the conductors who are failing to deal with this particular issue. Out of interest on mainly 'commuter' trains are you expected to sell a lot of tickets? I would have thought that people travelling same services 5 days a week would be buying in advance to save some cash, so wouldn't have expected ticket sales (or lack of) to be used as an indicator of a overcrowded service? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Out of interest on mainly 'commuter' trains are you expected to sell a lot of tickets? I would have thought that people travelling same services 5 days a week would be buying in advance to save some cash, so wouldn't have expected ticket sales (or lack of) to be used as an indicator of a overcrowded service? We don't anything such as targets and I've never known anyone to be pulled up because of poor revenue. But we've to go through (where possible) on every service. But in the instance above we'd get in more bother if we were late opening the doors than if we failed to sell tickets. Therefore you probably won't see a conductor if it's an overcrowded train as the chances of them getting to the doors in the crowds are obviously slim! You'd be surprised how much money is on the commuter trains even excluding season tickets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cille Mhernaig Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: We don't anything such as targets and I've never known anyone to be pulled up because of poor revenue. But we've to go through (where possible) on every service. But in the instance above we'd get in more bother if we were late opening the doors than if we failed to sell tickets. Therefore you probably won't see a conductor if it's an overcrowded train as the chances of them getting to the doors in the crowds are obviously slim! You'd be surprised how much money is on the commuter trains even excluding season tickets. The bit I've bolded is interesting as when the 18:07 Neilston service was just 3 carriages, you understandably wouldn't see the conductor till normally Muirend where they would put in an appearance once enough people had disembarked and train was no longer overcrowded. Guess though there is still enough money for them to take a quick walk through even if the train is halfway through the service at the risk of them being found out they had opened the doors late. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 54 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: We don't anything such as targets and I've never known anyone to be pulled up because of poor revenue. But we've to go through (where possible) on every service. But in the instance above we'd get in more bother if we were late opening the doors than if we failed to sell tickets. Therefore you probably won't see a conductor if it's an overcrowded train as the chances of them getting to the doors in the crowds are obviously slim! You'd be surprised how much money is on the commuter trains even excluding season tickets. Got to admit, the few remnants of teenagership that I have managed to retain sees me trying to jook the train, or part of the journey I can, any time I'm on one. Having done a few longer journies in the last year, I have to say you could jook the inter-city trains a lot more easily than the 'local' versions. I was at Berwick this weekend, and never got my ticket checked between Edinburgh and Berwick in either direction. Same when I went to Manchester Airport by train last year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Got to admit, the few remnants of teenagership that I have managed to retain sees me trying to jook the train, or part of the journey I can, any time I'm on one. Having done a few longer journies in the last year, I have to say you could jook the inter-city trains a lot more easily than the 'local' versions. I was at Berwick this weekend, and never got my ticket checked between Edinburgh and Berwick in either direction. Same when I went to Manchester Airport by train last year. It must depend what kind of guard you get. I've twice went from Lockerbie to Glasgow on the TPE and both times I never saw a conductor. I think it's understandable if it's short gaps between stops that you won't see a guard but there's a fair distance between Lockerbie and Glasgow and it wasn't even remotely busy either time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 17 hours ago, Scosha said: I get on and off these trains at Giffnock most days and it's nothing short of a f*cking shambles every day. The 07:59 gets to Giffnock at 8.16 folk are already having to stand. By Thornliebank and Pollokshaws West you're squeezed right in with folk piling in the doors at the last second. I can't understand how the train conductors don't report how bad an issue it is. There's a part between Thornliebank and Pollokshaws West where two train lines join and there's a 'jolt' at that point. Often puts people who are on their feet on their arse as they've nothing to hold on to since it's so crammed. About 18 months ago I was on the 8.16 into Glasgow. Approaching Crossmyloof and we're told the train in front is stuck as its brakes have seized. Sat on the train line before Crossmyloof for an hour and 20 minutes, every carriage literally filled with no room for movement. As you can imagine it got very hot and stuffy amongst the people standing up which caused a couple of people to faint. It's a massive health and safety risk that needs to be addressed immediately although it'll never happen. Down to 4 carriages today when it's usually 6 no room for anyone else after Giffnock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 EK seems a particularly busy route. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Rover Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Shameful behaviour by EK route travellers, overloading Scotrail's wee trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Currently stuck outside Patrick. Power failure on the overhead wires.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Rover Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Chris_DK said: Currently stuck outside Patrick. Power failure on the overhead wires.. Unusual, to be fair. Generally reliable service there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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