MacGafraidh Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 http://www.today.com/parents/no-more-heading-us-soccer-out-new-guidelines-youth-soccer-t54971 What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Not really surprising given the increased public awareness of concussions and related-symptoms in the more common (or rather more specialised, since American children view football largely as a means of running around until about 10 or 11 when they play a 'real' sport exclusively) & popular sports there. Of course, one potential/presumed benefit of such a law is that from a young age there's a focus on playing football with the feet rather than just booting it up the park, although I wouldn't attempt to know enough about the coaching structures in North American youth football to comment on that with any authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Is concussion from footballs a common problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Yeah... not quite as drastic as the headline makes out If the research suggests this is a problem, what else are you supposed to do? As with boxing and suchlike, you're free to make these choices as an adult, but kids need protection until they're fully developed. I totally understand people thinking that it seems like wrapping kids up in cotton wool, but it's surely important to listen to folk who've actually studied the effects of concussive trauma on the brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Is concussion from footballs a common problem? When I played 'soccer' with my three I didn't play headers with them when they were wee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 America to be dodgy at corners in a few years then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'd have thought the lighter balls these days would have made it less of an issue. The sport manufacturers are probably desperate to come up with a need for parents to buy more equipment though, like a head protector you can head with. They must hate saakir. P.S. Had a look at your blog. Do you photograph all the pages, including the son of and daughter of and mother of etc. ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'm not hugely surprised by the development in a litigant culture like the USA, but was somewhat surprised by the scale of this... no heading at all up to 11, and only heading in matches (without having practiced it) up to 14. How do gridiron and rugby manage at youth level at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'm not hugely surprised by the development in a litigant culture like the USA, but was somewhat surprised by the scale of this... no heading at all up to 11, and only heading in matches (without having practiced it) up to 14. How do gridiron and rugby manage at youth level at all? IIRC they play flag games( I may be wrong ) where the players have a flag on their waist band and the flag is the target and thus there is no contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 When I played 'soccer' with my three I didn't play headers with them when they were wee. Wise move, considering. They tell me your clearances were like bullets, Kinky. I'd have thought the lighter balls these days would have made it less of an issue. The sport manufacturers are probably desperate to come up with a need for parents to buy more equipment though, like a head protector you can head with. They must hate saakir. P.S. Had a look at your blog. Do you photograph all the pages, including the son of and daughter of and mother of etc. ones? ^^^ BEAST Oh, WB. Are none of our children safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I'm not hugely surprised by the development in a litigant culture like the USA, but was somewhat surprised by the scale of this... no heading at all up to 11, and only heading in matches (without having practiced it) up to 14. How do gridiron and rugby manage at youth level at all? Rugby now after a lot of talk has started to address concussion protocols quite proactively....my son has just completed mandatory 3 wk ban after an albeit minor concussion which both school n club coaches took seriously.....in my day as a player you carried on....with regard to heading a football id imagine its much less of an issue with light modern balls but always loved brian McClair's brutal assessment of how many headers you would need to be as thick as nicky butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Is concussion from footballs a common problem? Clashing heads while going for the same ball is probably more common Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antti Niemi Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 America to be dodgy at corners in a few years then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Balls don't kill people, people kill people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Surely kids under 10 shouldn't be heading the ball anyway. They should be trying to control it with their feet. Do we still teach kids to try and win flicks ons and getting your head onto a set piece? Nae wonder we're shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 GO USA!!!!!!!!!!! ^^^ how you bring crowds back to Scottish football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I suppose you could use these bubbles to encapsulate the OF fans and all the smelliness that comes with them. Big Jig's career ruined with one simple rule change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I'd go to every single game I could at 50 quid a pop to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Someone on my facebook who coaches over in Alabama summed up my thoughts on this. The pitches next to them at the weekend are filled with American Football games where the kids are encouraged by their parents and coaches to hit hard, and injuries occur on a weekly basis. Banning heading a football seems like something that should maybe be further down the list of priorities in concussion prevention - especially in America. Do i think it's wrong? Probably not, in a way it encourages, as should be the case, to keep the ball on the ground. I just don't know how it effects the way the game will be played, how will corners work for example? I know that in these ages groups, certainly when I was coaching a few years ago, goal kicks have effectively been taken out of the equation in an effort to play out from the back but I don't see how this would work with corners. My main concern is where does it stop in terms of banning things. Slide tackles can result in broken arms and legs which can affect you for the rest of your life, as I've experienced, do they get banned? Overall I think there's been a bit of an overreaction, mainly on social media, but an overall ban seems like a bit of an extreme measure to me. Will follow this as it develops as it's pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 My main concern is where does it stop in terms of banning things. Slide tackles can result in broken arms and legs which can affect you for the rest of your life, as I've experienced, do they get banned? Brain damage is a bit more serious than a broken limb, though. The brain is who we are; limbs are just meat that exist to serve the brain. Maybe the medics among us can confirm/correct, but I think brain injuries are also more serious with youngsters as their brains are still developing (not that they're exactly great news for anyone), whereas broken bones heal better when we're weans than at any other time of life. Not that I'm exactly advocating that we ought to be chasing kids around with hammers or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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