John Lambies Doos Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Eoin Jess? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 On Monday, September 04, 2017 at 11:39, DiegoDiego said: He's also a world class musical performer, being the only person ever to have featured twice on one episode of Top of the Pops. Always was a nice bit of trivia about Steve Archibald but sadly not true... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Burrows "He did, however, have two of his bands on the same Top of the Pops four times between 29 January and 26 February 1970. Appearing alongside Edison Lighthouse on the shows were Brotherhood of Man (29-01-70 and 19-02-70) and White Plains (12-02-70 and 26-02-70). The appearances on 29 January, 5 February and 26 February 1970 are all still in existence." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Law never won the Ballon d'or. That would be the world footballer of the year. He did win the European award though. He was world class though. Judging by the many youtube clips I've seen of him in his pomp, he was pretty unplayable. Alan Hutton has been the closest thing we've had to a world class player of late. Before he endured his series of awful injuries (various breakages and ligament damage) he was on his way to becoming one of the very top full backs in Europe. Against Italy in 2007 the reigning world champions made two substitutions and a further tactical change to try and stop him bombing forward. They couldn't. He moved to Spurs the following January, got injured in April, and then kept getting periodically injured for the next few years and just never came back the same player. Truly heartbreaking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Darren Fletcher 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 when Darren Fletcher was at his height playing in European Cup finals and dominating the holding role , he was world class didn't last long, season or two before form began to slide with stomach injuries before that Lambert in same role for 1 season at Dortmund, he was playing that role at world class level last world class attacking player must be Dalglish? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 10 hours ago, velo army said: Law never won the Ballon d'or. That would be the world footballer of the year. He did win the European award though. He was world class though. Judging by the many youtube clips I've seen of him in his pomp, he was pretty unplayable. Alan Hutton has been the closest thing we've had to a world class player of late. Before he endured his series of awful injuries (various breakages and ligament damage) he was on his way to becoming one of the very top full backs in Europe. Against Italy in 2007 the reigning world champions made two substitutions and a further tactical change to try and stop him bombing forward. They couldn't. He moved to Spurs the following January, got injured in April, and then kept getting periodically injured for the next few years and just never came back the same player. Truly heartbreaking. so he never got to world class, or anywhere near it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbirdonthewire Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) On 17/11/2017 at 22:11, velo army said: Law never won the Ballon d'or. That would be the world footballer of the year. He did win the European award though. He was world class though. Judging by the many youtube clips I've seen of him in his pomp, he was pretty unplayable. Alan Hutton has been the closest thing we've had to a world class player of late. Before he endured his series of awful injuries (various breakages and ligament damage) he was on his way to becoming one of the very top full backs in Europe. Against Italy in 2007 the reigning world champions made two substitutions and a further tactical change to try and stop him bombing forward. They couldn't. He moved to Spurs the following January, got injured in April, and then kept getting periodically injured for the next few years and just never came back the same player. Truly heartbreaking. Alan Hutton. Edited November 19, 2017 by Blackbirdonthewire -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullard Bluteau Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 The Celtic team of the late 60s early 70s when they were either the best or one of the very best teams in Europe, contained probably the last world class Scots players, like Jimmy Johnstone, Bobby Murdoch, Tommy Gemmell. Since then, very few could be described thus, hence no-one attracting the attention of teams like Real, Juventus, etc. Almost every country, small or not, has subsequently produced players of such ability to star on the world stage, like Hagi, Cruyff, Platini, Boniek, Cristiano Ronaldo, Zlatan, Laudrup, Stoichov, van Himst, excluding the obvious large countries like Spain, Italy, France, Russia and Germany etc. Unfortunately its been decades since we were able to despatch foreign opposition on a regular basis, which is probably when we really did have world class players compared to them. Perhaps Dalglish has come closest in recent memory having a great career at home and in England, although why he never played abroad is a mystery if he was that good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH75 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Dullard Bluteau said: Perhaps Dalglish has come closest in recent memory having a great career at home and in England, although why he never played abroad is a mystery if he was that good. Probably because the Liverpool side at the time were up there with the best in the world and possibly (like many folk from Scotland and the UK in general), he didn't fancy moving to a foreign country, learning a new language etc. And Liverpool obviously wouldn't have wanted to sell him either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 16 hours ago, Blackbirdonthewire said: Alan Hutton. My feelings exactly, the man had a purple patch for about a season then descended back in to mediocrity at best. I thought people mentioning fletcher was a bit ridiculous but this is frankly hilarious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 17/11/2017 at 22:11, velo army said: Law never won the Ballon d'or. That would be the world footballer of the year. He did win the European award though. He was world class though. Judging by the many youtube clips I've seen of him in his pomp, he was pretty unplayable. Alan Hutton has been the closest thing we've had to a world class player of late. Before he endured his series of awful injuries (various breakages and ligament damage) he was on his way to becoming one of the very top full backs in Europe. Against Italy in 2007 the reigning world champions made two substitutions and a further tactical change to try and stop him bombing forward. They couldn't. He moved to Spurs the following January, got injured in April, and then kept getting periodically injured for the next few years and just never came back the same player. Truly heartbreaking. Hutton may have made a decent fist of the 100m in his younger days, but at no stage of his career was he ever genuinely in control of a football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Dullard Bluteau said: The Celtic team of the late 60s early 70s when they were either the best or one of the very best teams in Europe, contained probably the last world class Scots players, like Jimmy Johnstone, Bobby Murdoch, Tommy Gemmell. Since then, very few could be described thus, hence no-one attracting the attention of teams like Real, Juventus, etc. Almost every country, small or not, has subsequently produced players of such ability to star on the world stage, like Hagi, Cruyff, Platini, Boniek, Cristiano Ronaldo, Zlatan, Laudrup, Stoichov, van Himst, excluding the obvious large countries like Spain, Italy, France, Russia and Germany etc. Unfortunately its been decades since we were able to despatch foreign opposition on a regular basis, which is probably when we really did have world class players compared to them. Perhaps Dalglish has come closest in recent memory having a great career at home and in England, although why he never played abroad is a mystery if he was that good. Liverpool were the best team in Europe when he was there, that’s why. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Dullard Bluteau said: The Celtic team of the late 60s early 70s when they were either the best or one of the very best teams in Europe, contained probably the last world class Scots players, like Jimmy Johnstone, Bobby Murdoch, Tommy Gemmell. Since then, very few could be described thus, hence no-one attracting the attention of teams like Real, Juventus, etc. Almost every country, small or not, has subsequently produced players of such ability to star on the world stage, like Hagi, Cruyff, Platini, Boniek, Cristiano Ronaldo, Zlatan, Laudrup, Stoichov, van Himst, excluding the obvious large countries like Spain, Italy, France, Russia and Germany etc. Unfortunately its been decades since we were able to despatch foreign opposition on a regular basis, which is probably when we really did have world class players compared to them. Perhaps Dalglish has come closest in recent memory having a great career at home and in England, although why he never played abroad is a mystery if he was that good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbirdonthewire Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Peter Weatherson. Honorary Scotsman. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullard Bluteau Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 20 hours ago, woof! said: Liverpool were the best team in Europe when he was there, that’s why. That's debatable of course, but however unlike today when the EPL pays the highest salaries, to earn the top money for a pro in those days, it was best to go to Italy or Spain. I`m surprised such a highly rated player wasn't tempted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, Dullard Bluteau said: That's debatable of course, but however unlike today when the EPL pays the highest salaries, to earn the top money for a pro in those days, it was best to go to Italy or Spain. I`m surprised such a highly rated player wasn't tempted. He won the European Cup three times. I’m sure he has no regrets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 21 hours ago, woof! said: Liverpool were the best team in Europe when he was there, that’s why. 31 minutes ago, Dullard Bluteau said: That's debatable of course WHIT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northboy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Dullard Bluteau said: That's debatable of course, but however unlike today when the EPL pays the highest salaries, to earn the top money for a pro in those days, it was best to go to Italy or Spain. I`m surprised such a highly rated player wasn't tempted. Those were different days, the world was a lot smaller and even moving from Scotland to England was seen as a big move. I'm sure Dalglish knew Liverpool were the team for him on and off the pitch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northboy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 What makes anyone a world class player? We'd all rate Messi and Ronaldo as world class but there aren't many others at their level. I'd argue that playing regularly, season on season, in the latter stages of European competition would qualify a player as world class. By that measure the only Scottish player who comes close in recent years would be Darren Fletcher. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Theres a few absolute whoppers in this thread, such as Alan Hutton being described as World Class for example...but to doubt that Dalglish was a World Class footballer really takes the fucking biscuit, Liverpool were the best team about and he was their star man, their icon and their best player (some would say ever). Have a word with yourself. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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