doulikefish Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Clackmannan North went ahead yesterday in the red weather warning. Apparently there is no legal way to postpone an election for weather. I would imagine you are looking at about a 20% turnout with at least half that in postal votes. Mountain to climb for SNP in those circumstances although our get out the vote operation is light years ahead of other parties. Should get a result soon. Snp win 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Yesss Great win on a turnout of 24.7% Interesting that the most recent central belt election have seen less of a unionist bloc transfer. Still a big transfer from Lab to Tories and vice versa but not like it was 12 months ago and not where SNP had to get around 45% of first preferences any more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB 4.2 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 First prefs: SNP 37%, Con 32%, Lab 24% SNP win at stage 5. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Woohoo! In your face Colonel Harrison! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 First prefs: SNP 37%, Con 32%, Lab 24% SNP win at stage 5. Pleasing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Always good to see the Tories losing. They thought they had this one in the bag, didn't they? Postal voting in ; awful weather etc. What's that? 3 this year and the Tories haven't won any! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LongTimeLurker Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 On 02/03/2018 at 14:31, invergowrie arab said: Yesss Great win on a turnout of 24.7% Interesting that the most recent central belt election have seen less of a unionist bloc transfer. Still a big transfer from Lab to Tories and vice versa but not like it was 12 months ago and not where SNP had to get around 45% of first preferences any more. Bizarre to see SNP supporters treating a win in Alva and Menstrie as a triumph rather than a cakewalk given it's pretty much ground zero for SNP support in the central belt. The SNP started getting people elected in Alva as far back as 1948, so it's the sort of place that needed to be well over 50% but wasn't for Yes to have won back in 2014. A big chunk of what used to be the SNP vote in council and Holyrood elections is now voting Tory because Union/Brexit motivations now take priority over stopping Labour from winning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Bizarre to see SNP supporters treating a win in Alva and Menstrie as a triumph rather than a cakewalk given it's pretty much ground zero for SNP support in the central belt. The SNP started getting people elected in Alva as far back as 1948, so it's the sort of place that needed to be well over 50% but wasn't for Yes to have won back in 2014. A big chunk of what used to be the SNP vote in council and Holyrood elections is now voting Tory because Union/Brexit motivations now take priority over stopping Labour from winning. ^ spoil sport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Bizarre to see SNP supporters treating a win in Alva and Menstrie as a triumph rather than a cakewalk given it's pretty much ground zero for SNP support in the central belt. The SNP started getting people elected in Alva as far back as 1948, so it's the sort of place that needed to be well over 50% but wasn't for Yes to have won back in 2014. A big chunk of what used to be the SNP vote in council and Holyrood elections is now voting Tory because Union/Brexit motivations now take priority over stopping Labour from winning. Totally agree. I fucking hate it when political parties celebrate wins. It’s like cheering when your team scores. Scum, sub human scum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Always good to see the Tories losing. They thought they had this one in the bag, didn't they? Postal voting in ; awful weather etc. What's that? 3 this year and the Tories haven't won any! And as I said on Twitter they have more 4x4 cars. [emoji593] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Bizarre to see SNP supporters treating a win in Alva and Menstrie as a triumph rather than a cakewalk given it's pretty much ground zero for SNP support in the central belt. The SNP started getting people elected in Alva as far back as 1948, so it's the sort of place that needed to be well over 50% but wasn't for Yes to have won back in 2014. A big chunk of what used to be the SNP vote in council and Holyrood elections is now voting Tory because Union/Brexit motivations now take priority over stopping Labour from winning. Alva and Menstrie now aren't the same places they were 60 years ago. They are primarily bedroom communities mostly filled with people from outwith the county, and working outwith the county. The hundreds of private homes built in Clackmannanshire in the last 30 years has really changed the voting demographic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 8 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Bizarre to see SNP supporters treating a win in Alva and Menstrie as a triumph rather than a cakewalk given it's pretty much ground zero for SNP support in the central belt. The SNP started getting people elected in Alva as far back as 1948, so it's the sort of place that needed to be well over 50% but wasn't for Yes to have won back in 2014. A big chunk of what used to be the SNP vote in council and Holyrood elections is now voting Tory because Union/Brexit motivations now take priority over stopping Labour from winning. And in a FPTP election i would agree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossbill Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Penicuik by election tomorrow. It's been a disastrous couple of days for the Tories, so it'll be interesting to see if that is reflected in the results. 2017 first preference results were: SNP 35.2% Conservative 26.2% Labour 25.6% Lib Dems 7.3% Green 5.7% If you're in the ward don't forget to vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Is the count tonight or tomorrow? Cheers in advance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB 4.2 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Any chance of a Tory win and a 6-6-6 cutting cards scenario? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow-sheep Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Penicuik by election tomorrow. It's been a disastrous couple of days for the Tories, so it'll be interesting to see if that is reflected in the results. 2017 first preference results were: SNP 35.2% Conservative 26.2% Labour 25.6% Lib Dems 7.3% Green 5.7% If you're in the ward don't forget to vote. I believe despite the snp polling most votes they only got the third seat due to unionist transfers so will be interesting to see how folk transfer this time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, glasgow-sheep said: I believe despite the snp polling most votes they only got the third seat due to unionist transfers so will be interesting to see how folk transfer this time The SNP stood two candidates in 2017. This split their vote. Accordingly, 1 Con & 1 Lab reached the quota on the 1st count. Their transfers to the SNP totalled 10.7 votes - the vast majority of their transfers (41.9) went to the Lib-Dem. The Green votes mainly transferred to the SNP. This resulted in the Lib-Dem being eliminated at the next round. At that point, their transfers hardly mattered as both remaining candidates were SNP. Accordingly, Unionist transfers had no bearing on the result in the seat when it elected 3 representatives. The 3 parties that got the highest overall percentage share got one seat each. The situation may be different tonight, however, when the unionist bloc vote give second and third preferences to each other. I still ask myself how any supposed socialist can vote for the Tories in preference to a centre-left party in an election to determine local services. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: I still ask myself how any supposed socialist can vote for the Tories in preference to a centre-left party in an election to determine local services. Because despite slating the SNP about their need to get on with the day job, every single time these people vote now it's on a referendum basis. They're not bothered about local services. A democratic socialist would recognise what the SNP said about a second referendum in their manifesto - only to be called in the event of a significant change (and citing Brexit as such). But unionism trumps democracy in Scottish Labour for the most part. So they vote tory. ETA - and stand down any hint of a competent candidate or campaign when they need to. You can hardly get a piece of card between BLIS and Ruth. Edited March 22, 2018 by HTG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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