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11 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

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Apparently Ferguson's resigned due to them falling out the play off places.

They currently sit 14 points off the play off places...

To be fair it doesn't say that. It says out of the race, not the places. 

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16 minutes ago, Malcolm Malcolm said:

'Attendances have collapsed across the league.'

Why oh why do people persist with this nonsense?

because it proves we need a "strong Rangers" which has been the beating heart of most of Scottish media for the last 5 years.  I don't recall articles like this in the 90's when they were having all sorts of love-ins with the Record etc.

They don't seem to get that the strong Rangers was actually the Wizard of Oz operating on huge debts and illegal tax dodging schemes and illegally registered players and ended up in liquidation.  This apparently is really unfair (not 20 years back though) and proves how crap the rest of us are.

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It's simply lies. It's repeated too often and widely to only ever be misunderstanding.

At the turn of the year 9 of 12 Premiership clubs crowds were actually up on last season, admittedly a couple only modestly; and only 3 were down with 1 of those modestly. Divisional average is no different that it was in the seasons between the recession and Rangers going bust.

Truth would be "Attendances in Lanarkshire have fallen 12%". Dubious of this least competitive league since Hungary in 1932 claim, too.


EDIT: So having read the full article... the people on the ground they went to for quotes were Archie McPherson and Gordon Smith :lol:.

Justification for the big claim of collapsing crowds is given by the fact that the journalist went to Hamilton v Aberdeen on Tuesday, and found the stadium half-full; plus he's looked-up the averages for Hamilton, Aberdeen and Motherwell and discovered they are all down... Conveniently the only 3 clubs that are down - and even then Aberdeen's only by a sliver. Coincidence and very bad luck on the part of the writer - or deliberate and selective deception, either by him or whoever informed him?

He then goes on to consult Richard Wilson - "an expert on Scottish football viewing figures"! - then uses the claim that TV figures for Celtic games are down 1/3 to 1/2 to prop the argument.

Shoddy piece of so-called quality journalism.

We can all look up 2 or 3 clubs - a pair of them having bad seasons battling relegation - find their crowds are down and claim it's a widespread trend. We would all be misleading people in doing so.


EDIT AGAIN: Of course the whole thing is also predicated on the assumption that a 1-horse race is terrible and makes everything bad.

Fact that most non-OF fans don't care between that and a 2-horse race doesn't really get a look-in.

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30 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

It's simply lies. It's repeated too often and widely to only ever be misunderstanding.

At the turn of the year 9 of 12 Premiership clubs crowds were actually up on last season, admittedly a couple only modestly; and only 3 were down with 1 of those modestly. Divisional average is no different that it was in the seasons between the recession and Rangers going bust.

Truth would be "Attendances in Lanarkshire have fallen 12%". Dubious of this least competitive league since Hungary in 1932 claim, too.


EDIT: So having read the full article... the people on the ground they went to for quotes were Archie McPherson and Gordon Smith :lol:.

Justification for the big claim of collapsing crowds is given by the fact that the journalist went to Hamilton v Aberdeen on Tuesday, and found the stadium half-full; plus he's looked-up the averages for Hamilton, Aberdeen and Motherwell and discovered they are all down... Conveniently the only 3 clubs that are down - and even then Aberdeen's only by a sliver. Coincidence and very bad luck on the part of the writer - or deliberate and selective deception, either by him or whoever informed him?

He then goes on to consult Richard Wilson - "an expert on Scottish football viewing figures"! - then uses the claim that TV figures for Celtic games are down 1/3 to 1/2 to prop the argument.

Shoddy piece of so-called quality journalism.

We can all look up 2 or 3 clubs - a pair of them having bad seasons battling relegation - find their crowds are down and claim it's a widespread trend. We would all be misleading people in doing so.


EDIT AGAIN: Of course the whole thing is also predicated on the assumption that a 1-horse race is terrible and makes everything bad.

Fact that most non-OF fans don't care between that and a 2-horse race doesn't really get a look-in.

I absolutely hate Archie McPherson. I'm in my thirties and the pompous old buffoon has managed to sound like an absolute dinosaur for as long I can remember.

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All this journalistic hogwash about whose going to take charge of the Big House/Drum (?) at Castle Greyskull and nary a mention of the complete lack of money or access to funds thereof?
The complete lack of serious analysis of all things red, white and blue is a disservice to Rangers supporters most of all.

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Of course it's all lies and misinformation. HJ has summed it up perfectly.

The hidden agenda here is simple - it's an anti-Scottish one. Look at the newspaper it's in FFS.

Rags like the Daily Record push their pro-Rangers agenda because that's their readership. Rags like the Telegraph push their self loathing/patronising-at-best/pathetic Jocks stuff because, well, that's their readership.

And Archie McPherson has been a prize welt for decades. No surprise to see him in the servile Better Together (ha!) camp back in '14.

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1 hour ago, stillresigned said:

All this journalistic hogwash about whose going to take charge of the Big House/Drum (?) at Castle Greyskull and nary a mention of the complete lack of money or access to funds thereof?
The complete lack of serious analysis of all things red, white and blue is a disservice to Rangers supporters most of all.

SNAKE MOUNTAIN! IT'S FUCKING SNAKE MOUNTAIN! CASTLE GREYSKULL WAS WHERE THE GOOD GUYS LIVED, AND SEVCO ARE NOT THE GOOD GUYS! RRRAAAAAAAAHHHHH!

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Horrendous piece of "journalism." For a country that apparently dosen't care about Scottish football, they're utterly fixated with it at times. You know the Croatian top flight, where European cannon fodder Dinamo Zagreb are going for their 12th (TWELTH) title in a row? Why don't you speak about that? How about talk to fans of Rijeka (famously bodied out of Europe by Aberdeen might I add) how they feel about it? No, he goes to Glasgow and speaks to some dinosaurs and a fucking cab driver and tries to pass it off as imvesrigative journalism. Get him in the sea.

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11 minutes ago, TheGoon said:

Horrendous piece of "journalism." For a country that apparently dosen't care about Scottish football, they're utterly fixated with it at times. You know the Croatian top flight, where European cannon fodder Dinamo Zagreb are going for their 12th (TWELTH) title in a row? Why don't you speak about that? How about talk to fans of Rijeka (famously bodied out of Europe by Aberdeen might I add) how they feel about it? No, he goes to Glasgow and speaks to some dinosaurs and a fucking cab driver and tries to pass it off as imvesrigative journalism. Get him in the sea.

The cab driver was spot on, Rangers are pish.

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SNAKE MOUNTAIN! IT'S FUCKING SNAKE MOUNTAIN! CASTLE GREYSKULL WAS WHERE THE GOOD GUYS LIVED, AND SEVCO ARE NOT THE GOOD GUYS! RRRAAAAAAAAHHHHH!


Being a little young for He-Man, I have recently watched a few episodes on Netflix. That is some grade-A bat-shit brilliant nonsense. Stunning watching.
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2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

Fact that most non-OF fans don't care between that and a 2-horse race doesn't really get a look-in.

Unfortunately the only football journalist that can see past the 1-horse/2-horse race what difference does it make really, is Jim Spence. The rest are just blinkered.

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