welshbairn Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, NotThePars said: He shifted his view because he felt comfortable taking an anti-EU stance when it never looked like he’d have to defend that stance as it occurred. Corbyn isn’t objectionable because of his euroscepticism, it’s completely fitting with his socialist outlook. He’s objectionable because he’s willing to overlook abusive elements of his immediate backers and because he’s willing to throw immigrants under the bus for votes. Agree with the second part but I'm pretty sure Granny was attacked for his pro brexit stance right from the start. Hopefully we successfully challenged his Brexit view before the vote, but after is ok. Edited March 10, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I'm on fire.I will admit that to anyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 You have to get your trolling nuanced to be really effective. I've got a BBCbad thread set up in my honour just by mentioning facts and shit. You can't handle the facts ! "Facts" are "shit" these days and that's a "fact". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: You have to get your trolling nuanced to be really effective. I've got a BBCbad thread set up in my honour just by mentioning facts and shit. No you denied facts there's an important difference 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: Granny Danger is the literal “petty booj” poster on this forum. A small business owner with vested interests in the status quo. . 2/10. Must try harder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Funny seeing Fide being mentioned by another yoons troll.He's never been in this forum for months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Funny seeing Fide being mentioned by another yoons troll.He's never been in this forum for months. He was great. "Tick tock" 2014 patter followed by his clock mainspring breaking and him going into meltdown at the shock the world outside P&B didn't mirror the world within it. Must have been hard for him. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 He was great. "Tick tock" 2014 patter followed by his clock mainspring breaking and him going into meltdown at the shock the world outside P&B didn't mirror the world within it. Must have been hard for him. The problems he had in real life maybe put all that into perspective. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 The problems he had in real life maybe put all that into perspective. Aye i remember something about him having a few unrelated problems before he left. Wish him all the best. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Aye i remember something about him having a few unrelated problems before he left. Wish him all the best. That's weird, I was just thinking about fide yesterday when I was reading this thread. Hope he's doing ok . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 On 10 March 2018 at 23:10, Antlion said: On balance I’d prefer waiting until Brexit hits. However, that’s with the caveat that sitting waiting on the polls to change is a non-starter. Scots will sleepwalk into the destruction of the nation for auld lang syne unless there is an active, strong, vigorous push on the part of our government. The polls can change (as 2014 demonstrated), but not without proper debate and campaigning, which relies on there being a referendum announced. There’s never going to be a magic moment springing up. There won't be any referendum this side of leaving the EU because part of the leaving process is extra powers coming to Holyrood. If that falls short then a discussion will take place. Don't be too shocked if the next referendum is held post 2030. Or as some might say, in another generation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Glenconner said: There won't be any referendum this side of leaving the EU because part of the leaving process is extra powers coming to Holyrood. If that falls short then a discussion will take place. Don't be too shocked if the next referendum is held post 2030. Or as some might say, in another generation. Wishful thinking champ. The Scottish government have an unassailable mandate to have one in this parliament, so guess when it will be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: Wishful thinking champ. The Scottish government have an unassailable mandate to have one in this parliament, so guess when it will be. Had the SNP not lost 22 MPs in one go i'd have went along with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, Glenconner said: Had the SNP not lost 22 MPs in one go i'd have went along with that. What's that got to do with it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Had the SNP not lost 22 MPs in one go i'd have went along with that. ????? SNP achieved 56 of 59 MPS, this was never going to be replicated, they have majority of MPs and still dominate the Scottish Parliament. I'm torn re next referendum date but your point is pretty irrelevant 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 If westminster don't give way on the power grab, I think they'll be a referendum called very soon and depending on the legal challenges can see it being held before Brexit, so autumn or spring next year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: If westminster don't give way on the power grab, I think they'll be a referendum called very soon and depending on the legal challenges can see it being held before Brexit, so autumn or spring next year. Undoubtedly the UK will seek to f**k Scotland, rewrite the Scotland Act (or ignore it) without the Scottish government’s agreement, and entrench Westminster control of Scotland in “devolved” areas. The question is, will enough people see this as the democratic outrage it is? After all, the reconvened Scottish Parliament is relatively young. There are probably more people who have experienced the UK ruling Scotland as a province, and accept that as normal, than have known devolution. If the Scottish Parliament had been in operation for a longer period, people would be rightly rebelling against this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Glenconner said: Had the SNP not lost 22 MPs in one go i'd have went along with that. Wm elections are nothing to do with this. They already had a mandate, and also an instruction from their voters. It will be in this parliament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, Antlion said: Undoubtedly the UK will seek to f**k Scotland, rewrite the Scotland Act (or ignore it) without the Scottish government’s agreement, and entrench Westminster control of Scotland in “devolved” areas. The question is, will enough people see this as the democratic outrage it is? After all, the reconvened Scottish Parliament is relatively young. There are probably more people who have experienced the UK ruling Scotland as a province, and accept that as normal, than have known devolution. If the Scottish Parliament had been in operation for a longer period, people would be rightly rebelling against this. I think it's more if we had a professional balanced objective media people would be outraged. We simply don't though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Colkitto said: What's that got to do with it? British nationalist in contempt for Holyrood and tunnel vision aimed at the Palace of Westminster shocker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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