Big Rider Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 2 hours ago, philyerboots said: why single England oot ? SCOTS NHS FACING "WINTER MELTDOWN" AS OPERATIONS CANCELLED (Seems as if our NHS isn't better than England after all. Hunt has apo...logised, wonder when Nippy will do likewise? Ed.) Scotland's NHS is facing claims of a "winter meltdown" after some hospitals were forced to cancel operations due to soaring pressure on A&E departments. NHS Lanarkshire has also redeployed office staff to cleaning duties after its three hospital sites at Hairmyres, Wishaw and Monklands were "inundated" over the festive period. Elective or non-urgent procedures have now been postponed at the hospitals for the rest of the week due to the increased pressure on services. NHS Dumfries and Galloway also confirmed that some outpatient clinics were suspended on Wednesday and non-urgent elective surgeries postponed for the day. It came as official NHS statistics revealed that hundreds of patients had been left waiting more than eight hours to be seen in A&E departments over the past week, while more than 600 operations were cancelled by hospitals over a lack of capacity. Why single England out? Include Wales too if you like. Is the performance of the NHS in England better or worse than that in Scotland? Yes or no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Why single England out? Include Wales too if you like. Is the performance of the NHS in England better or worse than that in Scotland? Yes or no? Don't give him hard questions like yes/no, it's just cruelty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philyerboots Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Big Rider said: Is the performance of the NHS in England better or worse than that in Scotland? Yes or no? That's a No . Much easier to tend a windae box than a public park . Least you forget their also rather busy tending to our patients. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 At least we know the stuff about education being down the shitter is true, reading this tripe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, philyerboots said: That's a No . Much easier to tend a windae box than a public park . Least you forget their also rather busy tending to our patients. Pish. The Scottish NHS is out-performing the equivalents in all the home nations. The yoons can bleat all they want but it's true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Wtf is going on when posters are seriously replying to one of the few posters thicker than Glen Minter? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rider Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 35 minutes ago, philyerboots said: That's a No . Much easier to tend a windae box than a public park . Least you forget their also rather busy tending to our patients. Glad that you agree that they are very busy attending to our patients in Scotland and doing a far better job than in England and Wales. Perhaps you should do a meme asking for Nicola to continue to praise the hard working staff at NHS Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paco Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hopefully we eventually reach a point where the Scottish Government and their supporters can try to address, or at least discuss, the serious issues with the Scottish NHS, rather than simply comparing to England and Wales. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hopefully we eventually reach a point where the Scottish Government and their supporters can try to address, or at least discuss, the serious issues with the Scottish NHS, rather than simply comparing to England and Wales. Maybe the yoonionist biased media will stop dragging the Scottish NHS into the total omnishambles that is the the equivalent in privatised England and red tory Wales then..... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Paco said: Hopefully we eventually reach a point where the Scottish Government and their supporters can try to address, or at least discuss, the serious issues with the Scottish NHS, rather than simply comparing to England and Wales. The Scottish NHS uses what is known as a “single-payer” model – healthcare is free at the point of use, funded out of taxation, and health workers are employees of the government. I wonder which other countries use this system? As far as I can see, its mainly England, Wales, Northern Ireland, Spain, Italy & the Scandinavian nations. Accordingly, as no service of this type can be funded in such a manner as to provide a perfect service, I would suggest that it is highly appropriate to compare the performance of NHS Scotland with the equivalent services in these countries. If I only had to pick one or two of them, I'd probably choose ones that currently use the same currency we do. I would also suggest that if the boot was on the other foot and NHS Scotland was underperforming other similar systems, the comparisons would be being made on an hourly basis by the BBC et al. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Scotland in Onion, the pro-Union front for the aristocracy and rich, is in soapy bubble. Shame. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15811005.Questions_raised_over_Scotland_In_Union_s_election_expenses/?ref=twtrec 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Scotland in Onion, the pro-Union front for the aristocracy and rich, is in soapy bubble. Shame.http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15811005.Questions_raised_over_Scotland_In_Union_s_election_expenses/?ref=twtrec f**k all will happen, the general public won't care and the next poll will show 52-48 in favour of the Union. The needle returns to the start of the song and we all sing along like before..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Derek Bateman has exposed the manipulation of the Scottish media in his blog. Present the SNPbad, Sturgeon is rubbish and Scotland is shite, articles from the press office, give a date it should be run over festive season and viola, it appears without being proof read. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 5 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: f**k all will happen, the general public won't care and the next poll will show 52-48 in favour of the Union. The needle returns to the start of the song and we all sing along like before..... True, nothing major will happen but it's another nugget that can be produced before Indyref2 to show how splintered and corrupt the 'Unionists' are. Will Labour-friendly voters - esp the young Corbynistas - want to back the side of aristocracy? However, no-one could claim that SiU are a well-kent force amongst the general public. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 7 hours ago, Crùbag said: True, nothing major will happen but it's another nugget that can be produced before Indyref2 to show how splintered and corrupt the 'Unionists' are. Will Labour-friendly voters - esp the young Corbynistas - want to back the side of aristocracy? However, no-one could claim that SiU are a well-kent force amongst the general public. Parcel of brogues 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Bateman is a moron and if you think that we in the SNP don't do the exact same in producing a 'Christmas pack' of stories to stagger over the festive period then you are one too. It's an extremely standard way to keep your press releases in the media without having to make your comms staff work over Christmas. "We in the SNP" who are you fucking kidding? When was the last time the msm went big every day with stories bigging up the SNP, and on previously nominated days, and a bit less personal abuse wouldn't go amiss either 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said: Bateman is a moron and if you think that we in the SNP don't do the exact same in producing a 'Christmas pack' of stories to stagger over the festive period then you are one too. It's an extremely standard way to keep your press releases in the media without having to make your comms staff work over Christmas. Hmm......."we".........I think not. Listen... I have no doubt that the SNP also prepares and times its press releases. The difference being the tv/print outlets do not tend to run the SNP or Scotland doing well stuff as headline material that is not to be verified/questioned. By and large our "Scottish" tele news and papers are seen by a large proportion of the population as britnat mouthpieces not to be trusted. Not a good situation to be in. Edited January 7, 2018 by git-intae-thum 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 28 minutes ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said: Yeah that's a fair point - the SNP is definitely treated differently by the press. But to claim as Bateman does that there is some great conspiracy is just nonsense. It's a fact of life that bad news sells. Nobody in the media ever made their fortune from good news stories. I've no doubt there is a political agenda at the back of what's going on in the Scottish media - with the BBC at the heart of it - but at least part of what we see is custom and practice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Yeah that's a fair point - the SNP is definitely treated differently by the press. But to claim as Bateman does that there is some great conspiracy is just nonsense. Bateman has defended the MSM especially his former employer, the bbc, since well before indyref1, and I'm sure that he considered this revelation was a bridge too far for even him to simply stay quiet about it. The journalist principles that were the bedrock of the news media for centuries have gone, and he realises that big time now, so blogged the story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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