Jmothecat2 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I reckon Indy would win pretty comfortably, is there anyone in Scotland who actually wants rid of devolution? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: I reckon Indy would win pretty comfortably, is there anyone in Scotland who actually wants rid of devolution? WATP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I reckon Indy would win pretty comfortably, is there anyone in Scotland who actually wants rid of devolution? 19% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just shy of 30% going by the last general election. At least that is if u count all those that voted tory and unionist. Those that did so, surely must have realised that hamstringing if not completely shutting down holyrood is a tory aim. Its in the name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I'm no fan of the current government but do you really think they are trying to reverse devolution? I believe it's on the table yes. They'll probably try a stitch up first with these 'new powers' and if sturgeon doesnt play ball and goes for indy2 I can see them doing it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd String Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Personally I can't see a Westminster government trying to reverse devolution without us voting for it. After all devolution was implemented after we said yes. There would be Carnage on the streets in Scotland. At the very least wouldn't it have to be Holyrood that would vote itself out of existence. Edited September 13, 2017 by Highlandmagyar 2nd String 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd String said: Personally I can't see a Westminster government trying to reverse devolution without us voting for it. After all devolution was implemented after we said yes. There would be Carnage on the streets in Scotland. Is this the same carnage as the one that was supposed to happen when we were taken out of the EU against our will? If anything's been proven, at least to me, over the past few years It's that, for a helluva lot of Scots, they can be scared into voting whichever way the BBC, the UK parliament and the media wants them to. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I reckon there are people who equate devolution to the SNP. Devolution = SNP = bad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jeff Venom said: I reckon there are people who equate devolution to the SNP. Devolution = SNP = bad The very same people that voted no because they didn't want the SNP in government, or because Alex Salmond is a bit smug. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Personally I can't see a Westminster government trying to reverse devolution without us voting for it. After all devolution was implemented after we said yes. There would be Carnage on the streets in Scotland. At the very least wouldn't it have to be Holyrood that would vote itself out of existence. Being able to legislate on devolved matters without reference to Holyrood and or deciding unilaterally to reserve powers is the same as if they paid the vanguard bears to bulldoze it.Of course they wouldn't need paid and they wouldn't be so unsubtle but, the devolved parliaments are a major headache for the balls out brexit that's on the cards here. In order to do what's being done the devolved nations have to be sidelined and that's a priority for a few and just an unexpected benefit for most of these c***s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd String Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Shades75 said: Is this the same carnage as the one that was supposed to happen when we were taken out of the EU against our will? If anything's been proven, at least to me, over the past few years It's that, for a helluva lot of Scots, they can be scared into voting whichever way the BBC, the UK parliament and the media wants them to. I prefer to think that the Scots we're adult enough to accept the result as voting as the UK as a whole. It is just the same for anyone who votes for a party at any election that doesn't become the government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I'm just struggling to see how it's in May's interests to reverse devolution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassnahalf Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The SNP has painted themselves into a corner. Anything the UK Gvmt gets is to be seen as a loss to the SNP... it's a power grab! The Devolved Gvts never had this power before, Brussels had it, it is no power grab 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I'm no fan of the current government but do you really think they are trying to reverse devolution? Yes, thanks to you and your red tory people's party 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 24 minutes ago, glassnahalf said: The SNP has painted themselves into a corner. Anything the UK Gvmt gets is to be seen as a loss to the SNP... it's a power grab! The Devolved Gvts never had this power before, Brussels had it, it is no power grab Ellipsis. Inconsistent spacing. SNP bad. Brexit good. Westminster good. f**k off Mcspreader. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The SNP has painted themselves into a corner. Anything the UK Gvmt gets is to be seen as a loss to the SNP... it's a power grab! The Devolved Gvts never had this power before, Brussels had it, it is no power grab Look into things before you post a load of nonsense please, thank you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, bob the tank said: Look into things before you post a load of nonsense please, thank you This is at least his third alias. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd String said: I prefer to think that the Scots we're adult enough to accept the result as voting as the UK as a whole. It is just the same for anyone who votes for a party at any election that doesn't become the government. Do you think these "adults" will ever get round to being "adult" enough to admit or even consider that they might have made a mistake in voting for Brexit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd String Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 6 hours ago, Shades75 said: Do you think these "adults" will ever get round to being "adult" enough to admit or even consider that they might have made a mistake in voting for Brexit? But, as you have already intimated in a previous post, Scots didn't vote for Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 But, as you have already intimated in a previous post, Scots didn't vote for Brexit. They didn't but they did vote for the union. Scotland needs a short to mid stability period. Let's see how brexit pans out. I for one want to see a independent Scotland, and I believe I will. But, let's respect both results wait a few years and evaluate situation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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