Shades75 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Baxter Parp said: Yeah. But surely they'll take note of that at least? Well let's hope so. But it goes against the "I'm alright jack" stereotype. I wouldn't put it past the Tory oap's to realise that they are doing better under the Scottish government than their English counterparts under Westminster, but still vote Tory because union. They'll still hate the SNP because independence even though they've benefitted under the SNP more than they would under the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Aye rooth the mooth says they are staying because she needs the old folks votes because its colder in jockoland,but who is paying for them??Basically she is saying they will get cut everywhere else but will attack the scots gov if they get cut here with It's also a Holyrood policy in a Westminster election. A non-compliant media would be tearing that to shreds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Shades75 said: It's also a Holyrood policy in a Westminster election. A non-compliant media would be tearing that to shreds. I was going to add that but i thought by now we would all be used to the tories getting an easy ride 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 hours ago, doulikefish said: Aye rooth the mooth says they are staying because she needs the old folks votes because its colder in jockoland,but who is paying for them??Basically she is saying they will get cut everywhere else but will attack the scots gov if they get cut here with That's her modus operandi - let her boss do something nasty, then blame the SNP for not blocking it. Sadly people fall for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 I can understand the SNP playing the cautious statesmen like approach given the amount of elections and they don't want to rock the boat too much. But after the Westminster election the gloves really have to come off over indyref2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Colkitto said: I can understand the SNP playing the cautious statesmen like approach given the amount of elections and they don't want to rock the boat too much. But after the Westminster election the gloves really have to come off over indyref2. I'm not convinced they're capable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, ayrmad said: I'm not convinced they're capable. I'm not suggesting they're beginning to look weak over this but the rhetoric coming from the Tories without any significant reply ain't doing us any favours. I can also understand the "don't rock the boat" mentality during elections, but after the June election there won't be an election for some time now and the SNP can afford to up the ante. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Love how the media portrayed the fuel payment stunt as a "rift" between May and Ruthie. It wasn't. It was a cynical election plot to make Ruthie appear on the side of Scots oldies. Despicable and well orchestrated by the Tory media cartel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 On 2017-5-19 at 16:16, Shades75 said: Well let's hope so. But it goes against the "I'm alright jack" stereotype. I wouldn't put it past the Tory oap's to realise that they are doing better under the Scottish government than their English counterparts under Westminster, but still vote Tory because union. They'll still hate the SNP because independence even though they've benefitted under the SNP more than they would under the Tories. You can't buy off everyone's fundamental beliefs with a few poxy benefit payments. More people believe in the primacy of the Union and won't be bought off by the SNP's blatant politicking in respect of a handful of giveaways that they will have to claw back after independence anyway. I despair at your stupidity. The SNP have proven they are incapable of running good schools, maintaining decent roads etc etc and afford to bribe the electorate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Wait now.People voted yes for benefits? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, McSpreader said: More people believe in the primacy of the Union I presume you mean the 55/45 split in the Referendum of 2014 which is fair enough, but would a General Election result show this? We will wait to see the votes won by Independence supporting parties as contrasted to the various Unionist parties in June before further discussions no doubt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 "Primacy of the union"More important than people's lives. Millions of people. I despair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 8 hours ago, McSpreader said: You can't buy off everyone's fundamental beliefs with a few poxy benefit payments. More people believe in the primacy of the Union and won't be bought off by the SNP's blatant politicking in respect of a handful of giveaways that they will have to claw back after independence anyway. I despair at your stupidity. The SNP have proven they are incapable of running good schools, maintaining decent roads etc etc and afford to bribe the electorate. Well that's all very well... Have you pointed out the homophobic content in Cerberus's post yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Shades75 said: Well that's all very well... Have you pointed out the homophobic content in Cerberus's post yet? He kind of can't now that he's been outed as one himself. Even though he does hint at liking "bum sex" as he puts it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 But teh indyref2 uncertenteh! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: But teh indyref2 uncertenteh! That's because we have the 3rd best economy behind London and the South East. As the news like to use the narrative that we are subsidized, then it must mean we subsidize every region in the UK from Northern Ireland to the West Midlands and the North East. Of course that's not the case, all these regions are there to benefit London. I'm just glad we have a parliament and a little bit of autonomy. The likes of Newcastle have no escape from these complete charlatans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 That's because we have the 3rd best economy behind London and the South East. As the news like to use the narrative that we are subsidized, then it must mean we subsidize every region in the UK from Northern Ireland to the West Midlands and the North East. Of course that's not the case, all these regions are there to benefit London. I'm just glad we have a parliament and a little bit of autonomy. The likes of Newcastle have no escape from these complete charlatans. I thought we were the worst? That's what the beeb say.. no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Can there be one before 2021 now? Can't imagine she will call one before the next Holyrood elections, and even then she will only call one then if she gets a pro indy majority. Interesting times ahead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Can there be one before 2021 now? Can't imagine she will call one before the next Holyrood elections, and even then she will only call one then if she gets a pro indy majority. Interesting times ahead. Lex... I and many nationalists said c. 2023. I've never changed that stance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Wee Jimmy couldn't accept 55/45 will she now see sense and throw in the towel at as the gap widens. Thankfully the vast majority of the Scottish public have seen through her nasty, bitter rhetoric and failing policies. The SNP have behaved like a gang in suits at Westminster and overseen the decline of every public service in Scotland, no wonder we, aka most of the Scottish people have seen through the tartan and shortbread. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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