renton Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Just now, Mastermind said: All we have had is a very short BBC interview, the article even states that May didn't say whether she was ruling out holding a referendum at some point in the future (i.e. once Brexit has taken place and things are clearer). A lot of Nats getting their knickers in a twist before May has even spoken in Parliament. I would imagine she will say that a referendum is possible, but only after Brexit is out the way. Which anyone with a modicum of sense would agree with. Nope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 She was absolutely Fucking raging at PMQs yesterday, we have a chance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) The telt is being issued: Edited March 16, 2017 by williemillersmoustache 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 "Mastermind" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, DI Bruce Robertson said: Hold it in the summer/ autumn then declare UDI. Can't see that happening. I hate to mention the 'S' word, but while I've no doubt they'd respect a legally-binding vote to leave the UK, they wouldn't allow a UDI Scotland to enter the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Granny Danger Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 This will be played out in the political arena and will understandably be portrayed as May v Strugeon, Tories v SNP, etc. However I think this really needs to be portrayed as it is. A conservative government who at the last general election got 15% of the votes in Scotland and at the last Holyrood election got 22% of the vote is denying the people of Scotland, not Scottish politicians, their right to a second referendum 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: This will be played out in the political arena and will understandably be portrayed as May v Strugeon, Tories v SNP, etc. However I think this really needs to be portrayed as it is. A conservative government who at the last general election got 15% of the votes in Scotland and at the last Holyrood election got 22% of the vote is denying the people of Scotland, not Scottish politicians, their right to a second referendum Who have just been leveled an historic maximum fine for breaching electoral rules and have more MPs than their majority under criminal investigation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 What a time to be alive. This will be in history books for centuries to come. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: This will be played out in the political arena and will understandably be portrayed as May v Strugeon, Tories v SNP, etc. However I think this really needs to be portrayed as it is. A conservative government who at the last general election got 15% of the votes in Scotland and at the last Holyrood election got 22% of the vote is denying the people of Scotland, not Scottish politicians, their right to a second referendum Yes. This needs to be played out exactly as it is. The Scottish people v Theresa's tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Fide said: What a time to be alive. This will be in history books for centuries to come. Reel it in, Fide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Theresa May: Scots will be "without the necessary information" on Brexit by Autumn 2018-Spring 2019. Are they just hoping to give us all the information the day before we leave the EU? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksandr Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 minute ago, git-intae-thum said: Yes. This needs to be played out exactly as it is. The Scottish people v Theresa's tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I feel sorry for those that have to study politics of the UK 2010-2020 in the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Oleksandr said: Do you think that opinion polls should take priority over election results? Because that is the nub of your argument. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 That gurgling sound you can hear is the Union sinking, fast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Master Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said: Theresa May: Scots will be "without the necessary information" on Brexit by Autumn 2018-Spring 2019. Are they just hoping to give us all the information the day before we leave the EU? Not just that, by why shouldn't the referendum be based on two uncertain outcomes? In 2014, it was a choice between continuing (largely) as we were, or taking a path that genuinely wasn't clear. There was plenty of talk over what it might lead to, but it still couldn't be anything other than promises and hypotheticals. Why not this time have both decisions like that? It would allow for a vote on the purest possible terms, where neither option retains the status quo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Do you think that opinion polls should take priority over election results? Because that is the nub of your argument. Yup,why bother about having expensive elections when we can just use privately funded opinion polls,save a fortune. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksandr Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Do you think that opinion polls should take priority over election results? Because that is the nub of your argument. All evidence suggests we don't want a referendum just now https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/180642 Trying to call one during Brexit negotiations is amateur hour from Sturgeon. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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