Zetterlund Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 The latest ABC/WaPo poll has Hillary 4 points ahead. So despite Pussygate, 10 women claiming Trump sexually assaulted them, and his apparent descent into madness, Clinton's lead is unchanged since before the conventions. Fucking hell Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 25 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: The latest ABC/WaPo poll has Hillary 4 points ahead. So despite Pussygate, 10 women claiming Trump sexually assaulted them, and his apparent descent into madness, Clinton's lead is unchanged since before the conventions. Fucking hell Hillary. The Wall Street Journal Poll has Clinton 11 points ahead, and the LA Times has them neck and neck, they're all over the place. Most polls have Trump in the 30's though. The important polls are the swing states that Trump needs to win. He's behind in nearly all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Trump has actually gone mental. The Reichstag Fire II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The Wall Street Journal Poll has Clinton 11 points ahead, and the LA Times has them neck and neck, they're all over the place. Most polls have Trump in the 30's though. The important polls are the swing states that Trump needs to win. He's behind in nearly all of them. Looking back at the LA Times polls it seems to be almost an inverted reflection of the others so obviously a very different polling method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: Looking back at the LA Times polls it seems to be almost an inverted reflection of the others so obviously a very different polling method. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/upshot/how-one-19-year-old-illinois-man-is-distorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Looking back at the LA Times polls it seems to be almost an inverted reflection of the others so obviously a very different polling method. Nate Silver writes a lot about in-house biases of polls. It's quite interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Savage Henry said: Nate Silver writes a lot about in-house biases of polls. It's quite interesting. I don't think it's deliberate. The LA Times is generally on the liberal side and the WSJ is on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I don't think it's deliberate. The LA Times is generally on the liberal side and the WSJ is on the right. That's the point. An in-house bias doesn't at all mean the results are biased, more that polling techniques are repeated and those techniques lean towards certain tendencies. Trends are almost more import than results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 If history is to go by Trump has just a little over 10% chance to be the next POTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Oh dear... As well as ongoing Wikileaks releases, more Guccifer hacks now apparently also on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Are we actually seeing a day that's about Clinton's shortcomings rather than Trump? This stuff probably would've sunk Clinton if it weren't for that tape. What a ridiculous election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Are we actually seeing a day that's about Clinton's shortcomings rather than Trump? This stuff probably would've sunk Clinton if it weren't for that tape. What a ridiculous election. Are we? I'm not seeing anything sticking to Clinton. I don't really see what the series on non-stories that Trump campaign is coming out with doing anything but making him look increasingly unhinged and desperate. With 20 odd days left in the campaign, he's presented precisely one policy, and that involves a big wall. ETA: it is a certifiably insane election though. Glorious and terrifying all at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Mark my words, the next WikiLeaks release will be the big one that sinks Hitlery. Or the one after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 26 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Mark my words, the next WikiLeaks release will be the big one that sinks Hitlery. Or the one after that. It's been blow after blow so far. Can't see her surviving this tbqphwy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 It doesn't matter what comes out to damage Clinton just now as Trump goes straight on Twitter and makes it about him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Remember when Rudy Giuliani used to be considered one of the most moderate Republicans around? What happened to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Another corruption non-story from the FBI email interviews. A senior exec in the State department contacted the FBI for assistance in altering the classification status of one of Hillary's emails that "caused problems" for them. They wanted it declassified to a status exempt from FOIA requests. As a quid pro quo, the FBI would get authority to post more agents overseas in restricted locations. This sort of thing would matter if she was standing against any semi-competent candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 24 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: Another corruption non-story from the FBI email interviews. A senior exec in the State department contacted the FBI for assistance in altering the classification status of one of Hillary's emails that "caused problems" for them. They wanted it declassified to a status exempt from FOIA requests. As a quid pro quo, the FBI would get authority to post more agents overseas in restricted locations. This sort of thing would matter if she was standing against any semi-competent candidate. I think you have the wrong link there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 21 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I think you have the wrong link there. That's the whole document dump, it's in there somewhere. The suspect bits are highlighted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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