vikingTON Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 Under contract so would be very expensive for you, even if our Committee agreed Uh huh: Somehow I'm sure that we could afford the utterly insignificant, five-figure sum and 'away fans have to visit the social club' diddy agreement expected by your 'committee'; if Aitken ever has the opportunity to get the job that he desperately craves more than any other at Greenock Morton Football Club then you'd have absolutely no chance of stopping it. Fortunately for you our chairman is still a complete and utter moron so Duffy's position isn't in doubt, but we will still effortlessly determine Aitken's stance between now and his inevitable elevation to the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-Orchid Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Stranraer fans clearly seem to be breaking into fits of idiocy at the prospect of Morton poaching Aitken from their club, an outcome which he has been targeting for at least the past year. Not to worry, as our chairman is notoriously incompetent and won't bother to replace Duffy until the meaningful league campaign is over. Really? Stranraer fans know Aitken will move on to bigger, better things. Not one fan would grudge him a step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghBlue Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 How much can Ayr / Greenock Morton players expect to earn by being full-time players? This is why the argument that full-time teams should walk this league is silly. Yes if you are a new team with no inherited debts and a Board that let's you spend at around the level of the annual budget of a developing country you will walk the lower divisions, rising undefeated to the Premiership and winning the Challenge Cup three times on the way. But if you are paying the sorts of levels that full time teams pay at the bottom of tier 2 or top of tier 3, this will be at a level deeply unattractive to potential signings who already have decent jobs/careers. So given what you can afford probably better to aim to pay the best part time wages. Your will have a better squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonnitus Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 We made 1 substitution yesterday. 1 sub, even after 2 red cards and being 2-0 down. 1 sub. Bringing off a centre mid playing left mid for a genuine left-sided player. Duffy's tactical ineptitude, inability to motivate players, complete lack of imagination, and sheer ignorance of how to change a game all highlights for the second week in a row. Anything good that comes from this team is in spite of Duffy - not because of him. Duffy out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 This is why the argument that full-time teams should walk this league is silly. Yes if you are a new team with no inherited debts and a Board that let's you spend at around the level of the annual budget of a developing country you will walk the lower divisions, rising undefeated to the Premiership and winning the Challenge Cup three times on the way. But if you are paying the sorts of levels that full time teams pay at the bottom of tier 2 or top of tier 3, this will be at a level deeply unattractive to potential signings who already have decent jobs/careers. So given what you can afford probably better to aim to pay the best part time wages. Your will have a better squad. How many times has a full time team failed to finish above a part time team in this division in the past decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Aitken's Love Child Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 How many times has a full time team failed to finish above a part time team in this division in the past decade? Are we possibly the last, when Stranraer beat us to 2nd place back in 2005? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Until today you were too. You're in a playoff place and one win away from the top spot. How can you possibly be complaining about your manager. Just think back to last season. Yeah, I have thought back to last season. We're an even worse team now. Duffy is a complete failure of a manager and there's absolutely no chance of us winning promotion with him in charge. We're fifteen games into the league season and we've already lost six: you can't get anywhere near promotion if you lose more than a third of your games. Stranraer have upward momentum right now, if Morton and Dunfermline don't get rid of Duffy and Jefferies you're going to end up miles ahead of both of us by the end of the season. The notion that Morton and Dunfermline fans wanting managers out is a product of delusions of grandeur is utterly false. Yes, neither side has any divine right to challenge for the title, but making a challenge is a perfectly reasonable expectation and it's apparent that both Duffy and Jefferies will fail to sustain one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Are we possibly the last, when Stranraer beat us to 2nd place back in 2005? Partick finished below Peterhead in 2006, but we know what happened after that. What about Ayr and Raith finishing below Stirling (and in Ayr's case Brechin) the year we won the title? There could also be a few examples from the 2007-08 season, depending on Ayr and Raith's status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 03/04: part-timers Hamilton and Dumbarton finished above full-time Morton (4th placed), while FT Airdrie won the league 04/05: PT Brechin and Stranraer finished above FT Morton (3rd placed) 05/06: PT Peterhead finished above FT Partick Thistle (4th placed), while FT Gretna and Morton were 1st and 2nd 06/07: FT Morton were top 07/08: FT Ross County were top 08/09: No FT teams 09/10: No FT teams 10/11: FT Livingston were top 11/12: No FT teams 12/13: FT Queen of the South were top 13/14: FT Rangers and Dunfermline were 1st and 2nd So basically, full-time teams have a clear advantage over the rest. There have been nine instances of a full-time side finishing above all the part-time teams, while there have been three instances of a full-time side finishing below part-time sides. Two of those three were Morton, the most shambolically run club in Scotland and probably the world. If Duffy remains in charge you can guarantee we'll be adding to that list, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Partick finished below Peterhead in 2006, but we know what happened after that. What about Ayr and Raith finishing below Stirling (and in Ayr's case Brechin) the year we won the title? There could also be a few examples from the 2007-08 season, depending on Ayr and Raith's status. I'm sure Raith were part-time their whole time in this division, as were Ayr until this season, but happy to be corrected on that if either stayed full-time in their first season down or were a hybrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I'm sure Raith were part-time their whole time in this division, as were Ayr until this season, but happy to be corrected on that if either stayed full-time in their first season down or were a hybrid. I honestly don't know- I've only suggested they might have been. I'd say Thistle are the most recent certainty though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Manager of the month for november Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Manager of the month for november Those SPFL guys are quality trolls. They really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 We won 3 out of 3 SPFL games in November and finished the month top of the league, based on that it's an understandable decision. The month just happened to be bookended by abysmal Scottish Cup performances, the latter one being one of the worst results in our history - totally incidental to the SPFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Francesc Fabregas Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I was actually part of the judging panel for November's awards. I nominated Stevie Aitken at Stranraer for the League 1 award (pointing out just how good a job he's done over the course of the season) but was overruled by a pretty large majority. My argument against Jim Duffy was that the cup defeat should negate anything else and other than Forfar Athletic, his team had beaten jobbers in Airdrieonians and Stenhousemuir. Alas, the Forfar result seemed pretty impressive to the rest of the panel and he was given it on the back of that. Someone else pointed out Morton had beaten Dunfermline Athletic in the same period, which turned out to be incorrect - I only realised this when I got home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Who else was on the panel? Mrs Duffy and Dougie Rae? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Who else was on the panel? Mrs Duffy and Dougie Rae? The SPFL have put a video on Facebook with two Dundee fans who were on the panel. They voted for Duffy because Dundee, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I was actually part of the judging panel for November's awards. I nominated Stevie Aitken at Stranraer for the League 1 award (pointing out just how good a job he's done over the course of the season) but was overruled by a pretty large majority. My argument against Jim Duffy was that the cup defeat should negate anything else and other than Forfar Athletic, his team had beaten jobbers in Airdrieonians and Stenhousemuir. Alas, the Forfar result seemed pretty impressive to the rest of the panel and he was given it on the back of that. Someone else pointed out Morton had beaten Dunfermline Athletic in the same period, which turned out to be incorrect - I only realised this when I got home. You might want to do your homework before the next judging panel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d ( . Y . ) b Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 How the f**k did that disaster win an award? What the hell is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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