Poet of the Macabre Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 McMenamin is a dickhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 We are far too soft, Scully not at fault here but if we are full time we should be kicking lumps out of these teams, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Eh? Full time means we should be hacking b*****ds?! Folk are putting far too much emphasis on strength. We coped more than well enough with the supposed physicality of the league until the slump in the last quarter last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 No but we shouldn't get getting bullied at set pieces and be able to win the midfield. We have several small players who just can't handle it. Would like to see stats of goals lost from headers and set pieces. The only reason we looked good last season was because we were scoring freely, now teams have sussed us out. Don't even need to play well, just win a few corners and set plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earwig Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Our finishing is atrocious, other than that the only thing of note is mcmeniman's behaviour, easily should have been off, running into Scully twice when it was not only preventable, but imo deliberate, thats not acceptable. After viewing this, both teams were unlucky in front of goal, and yes McMeniman is a bit immature, no need for these fouls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Berk Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Guess it must have only been entertaining if you were a Stenny fan ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 No but we shouldn't get getting bullied at set pieces and be able to win the midfield. We have several small players who just can't handle it. Would like to see stats of goals lost from headers and set pieces. The only reason we looked good last season was because we were scoring freely, now teams have sussed us out. Don't even need to play well, just win a few corners and set plays. We have conceded 15 goals this season(all comps), 4 have been from set plays.Of those Vs peterhead, williamson loses out on a header ( whilst being fouled) Vs forfar it was a free header after ugwu lost his man Vs stranrear, gibson scored direct from a free kick Vs morton o'ware scored with a free header.(geggan was marking him i think) So on one set play we have lost out from strength and that was still preventable through other means. Our defense has been good this season, best in the division comfortably, even our so called weakness we aren't particularly bad at , the problem is goalscoring that should be obvious. After viewing this, both teams were unlucky in front of goal, and yes McMeniman is a bit immature, no need for these foulsStenny maybe, but for us its a regular occurance, not once have we been able to walk away from a game saying we took the a decent amount of our chances, for a team in our position thats poor, and can't be atributed to luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 We have lost five league games this season. Four of those games have had goals in them from set pieces or headers. Loss 1 Forfar Headed Free Kick Deciding goal Loss 2 Morton Headed goal Deciding goal Loss3 Morton Headed Corner Equalising goal Loss4 Peterhead Headed Free Kick Winning goal ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 So not exactly a huge problem then. Our issues lie in front of the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 No doubt goalscoring is the problem but the point I was making is that we are still soft at free kicks and when it comes down to playoff games or close games against top teams we will concede more goals this way. If we can score a barrowload then no probs but the scoring of lots of goals last season just papered over the cracks at times. Ultimately this was exposed against Cowden. I think Vikington spotted it too on another thread, we get away with it three out of four weeks because most other teams are of a very poor standard but when facing Morton or Forfar and the likes we were found wanting. So we won't win the league or the playoffs until this is fixed along with the goal drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Folk have been moaning about Jefferies' packed midfield formation restricting creativity because of the lack of width and the fact that the front two are usually the ones having to go wide. When they do manage to put in a cross there's no danger any of our midgets are outjumping giant defenders (with a few notable exceptions from Faissal). Looking at where the goals conceded come from made me think about why we were scoring so many last year, especially so many late goals. We saw so many penalties and red cards given against opponents as we moved the ball quickly, drawing silly challenges. Teams have probably got wise to us, stand off, keep their shape and wait to either catch us on the break (eg Stenny) or get a chance to launch in a free kick or corner (eg Peterhead). Packing the team with central midielders has made us so one-paced and has closed all the space. At times it's like a back eight. With so many midfielders you'd think we'd work out a system to ensure a good balance of attack and defence but apart from one of Forbes' first games (we beat Ayr 3-0) I can't think of many times it has looked like a good system. Very frustrating to see a manager persisting with something that doesn't work, rather than looking at the available players and working out how to get the best out of them (ie being a manager). I saw a Levein comparison on here and I think that's very apt - it's like he has an idea of how he wants to play without looking at the reality of who is available and what their strengths and weaknesses are. He also seems to have confused Ross Millen with David Beckham and it's embarrassing for Millen and Jefferies. He's a decent League One right who gets a nose bleed when approaching the half way line yet is asked to perform some marauding role on the right, sticking in crosses, corners etc. Millen then ends up getting stick because he can't do what he is being asked, even though what is being asked of him is unfair in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Every single team concedes goals from set pieces. We aren't conceding a big amount from them. In fact we're conceeding less than we did last season. There isn't a problem there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 The problems are coming from the final third. We're not as inventive as last season and far too turgid, brutal finishing as well when the oppertunities do arise. It's keeping us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Pretty much. From the few games I've seen we just lack some speed and invention going forward and Moffatt is all over the place when he should be doing far more poaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 We have lost five league games this season. Four of those games have had goals in them from set pieces or headers. Loss 1 Forfar Headed Free Kick Deciding goal Loss 2 Morton Headed goal Deciding goal Loss3 Morton Headed Corner Equalising goal Loss4 Peterhead Headed Free Kick Winning goal ?? We didn't lose to peterhead. Of the rest none of those have been from us being too weak, they have all been free headers. Doesn't matter how strong you are against your opponent if your not close enough to be challenging. We concede at set pieces, of course, but as pointed out everyone does. I'm not sure what the average in this league is, but a few years back the EPL was averaging about 1/3 of goals scored being from set pieces, we have a better record than that. Its just silly to point at our defence as the problem. If we conceded one less goal in all our games we'd be 5 points better off, score 1 more and we'd be 9 better off. I really can't see a single stat that can put more blame on our defence rather than our attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earwig Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Our finishing is atrocious, other than that the only thing of note is mcmeniman's behaviour, easily should have been off, running into Scully twice when it was not only preventable, but imo deliberate, thats not acceptable. Someone on here thinks he should have got MOTM, oh well you do get them dont you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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