All things Dundee FC

[Boo Khaki]

6 hours ago, stu2910 said:

Would love for that to happen but I'd imagine they'd still rather send him to a bigger club down south than back here to play, in all likelihood, 2 European matches.  Hopefully even if he's not fit he gets a chance to come back for the Killie game to say bye.  It's something that we never managed to do with Gowser and potentially Kerr by the look of it - whatever people's thoughts on those 2 they at least earned that.

On Beck though, outside the mental era of the early 2000s, have we ever had a player make such an impact in so few games?

Clarkson, in the first Hartley season back in the Premier. Scored in something daft like 8 straight games, then promptly regressed to his normal self.

[RawB93]

8 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said:

Clarkson, in the first Hartley season back in the Premier. Scored in something daft like 8 straight games

The 8th was the winner here. Class day in the drizzle.

RIP the Derry surges  

 

 

[RossBFaeDundee]

41 minutes ago, stu2910 said:

That's a bit out of nowhere.  So essentially this would mean that the operation of the club and all first team activities would generally move to the stadium, while youths and girls would use riverside, with the community able to use both.  Would suggest no long term future for Gardyne unless I'm missing something.

Though reading it again it suggests that we are unlikely to build training facilities at the stadium and at riverside...so seems weird to be in the planning stages of both side by side unless we are basically hedging our bets in case one is rejected.

Sounds to me like the idea of a training facility beside the new stadium is unlikely to happen, hence the pivot to plan B at Riverside. I do wonder how much they'd be willing to lop off of the Camperdown complex, though I'd assume the stadium and the crematorium are non-negotiable.

Considering the willingness the SFA and UK Gov't have to provide funding for Riverside and it being further ahead than Nou Campy, the relative ease of developing that land for a training facility is more than worth favouring that option over spending far more time and money to get adequate training facilities at Camperdown as well.

As for Gardyne, I never thought it was planned on being a permanent location, though I'm not surprised that given its popularity it is being taken into account for the Nou Campy office plans.

[Boo Khaki]

1 hour ago, RawB93 said:

The 8th was the winner here. Class day in the drizzle.

RIP the Derry surges  

 

 

A lot of parallels with this season. Made hard work of promotion the season before, recruited well in the off-season, surprised a few folk in the first season back up. I just hope it doesn't fizzle out like Hartley and 2023-24 is not the highpoint of Docherty's time as manager.

[RossBFaeDundee]

8 minutes ago, betting competition said:

Do Dundee have a UEFA Licence in case they qualify for participation in Europe?

This link may be old? 

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/10719/280623-club-licensing-awards.pdf

We do. I was asking about this and looking it up yesterday, and the SFA only updated their website just yesterday. 

PDF file here

Edited Thursday at 17:02 by RossBFaeDundee

[betting competition]

Just now, RossBFaeDundee said:

We do. I was asking g a out this and looking it up yesterday, and the SFA only updated their website just yesterday. 

PDF file here

Upon further review, I located that link and subsequently deleted the post.

[RossBFaeDundee]

Just now, betting competition said:

Upon further review, I located that link and subsequently deleted the post.

Fair enough! It was a fair question to ask though, as I'd looked last week and it was still the previous document saying we were 'N/A'.

Must've fooled them by taking pictures from the Derry/Shankly corner showing Dens is all good (no video though, they'd hear the wellies squelching underfoot!)

[stu2910]

22 minutes ago, RossBFaeDundee said:

We do. I was asking about this and looking it up yesterday, and the SFA only updated their website just yesterday. 

PDF file here

Is there anything that explains what’s required for each tier?  Youth, legal and ground are reasonably self explanatory, but first team?!

Also what the relevance is when RC passed them all but were refused.

Edited Thursday at 17:25 by stu2910

[Ludo*1]

57 minutes ago, stu2910 said:

Is there anything that explains what’s required for each tier?  Youth, legal and ground are reasonably self explanatory, but first team?!

Also what the relevance is when RC passed them all but were refused.

It's all about having certain amount of coaches etc. We employ someone who's covers a multitude of jobs whereas to get a higher grading you need a specific person for each role. That's obviously not the only thing but one of the factors. I've went into detail about it before but basically Strachan disagrees with the philosophy of it all and we've went down our own completely different path. That's the youth I'm talking about. I'd imagine it'd be the same coach wise for the first team.

[Liam899]

On 15/06/2023 at 21:11, Liam899 said:

Riverside Uni - £4m

[Fifespud]

13 hours ago, betting competition said:

Upon further review, I located that link and subsequently deleted the post.

We’re Dundee ffs. We don’t need to bother with any of that shite. 

[Fifespud]

On 24/04/2024 at 23:46, peebles_Dee said:

Beck is a big loss I reckon but if we get 5th I reckon we will see him back on a short term loan. Europe qualification will give us access to high quality loans.

The only possibility of seeing Beck stripped at Dens again is if Liverpool reserves pop up to Dundee for a pre season friendly. Which used to be a regular occurrence back in the day. A few high profile Liverpool players made their debuts for Liverpool at Dens. 

[stu2910]

12 hours ago, Ludo*1 said:

It's all about having certain amount of coaches etc. We employ someone who's covers a multitude of jobs whereas to get a higher grading you need a specific person for each role. That's obviously not the only thing but one of the factors. I've went into detail about it before but basically Strachan disagrees with the philosophy of it all and we've went down our own completely different path. That's the youth I'm talking about. I'd imagine it'd be the same coach wise for the first team.

Would be interesting to know if there's actually any relevance in being Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum.  If we can be Bronze in the top flight it's clearly not that important.  I guess stadium grades will maybe have an impact on those that are chosen for cup neutral venues, Scotland youths etc.  Can't see how the rest would have any actual impact though other than a pat on the back.

On a side note, it's an absolute joke what has happened with the pyramid play off.  IMO, under no circumstances should a club ever be refused promotion on any of these criteria, especially when there are clubs at the level they are trying to reach and even the one higher than that that have the same level of award.  I know it says they were given a chance to apply for a grace period, but that should just be in place regardless.  The current farce just makes a mockery of the whole system.

Same goes for the next level down as I see that the Midland league that is full of Dundee and Angus clubs, which feeds into the Highland League playoff has never actually managed to produce a champion that is allowed to compete in the playoff.  I appreciate there are probably a fair few of the clubs that look at away trips to Wick and decide they're better staying put, but when you've no idea what teams are genuinely in line for promotion it's hard to keep an interest.

[Derry Alli]

12 hours ago, Liam899 said:

 

On 16/04/2024 at 19:42, Derry Alli said:

Big announcement coming out of Dens at the end of the month. 

 

[Dundee-FC92]

1 hour ago, stu2910 said:

Would be interesting to know if there's actually any relevance in being Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum.  If we can be Bronze in the top flight it's clearly not that important.  I guess stadium grades will maybe have an impact on those that are chosen for cup neutral venues, Scotland youths etc.  Can't see how the rest would have any actual impact though other than a pat on the back.

On a side note, it's an absolute joke what has happened with the pyramid play off.  IMO, under no circumstances should a club ever be refused promotion on any of these criteria, especially when there are clubs at the level they are trying to reach and even the one higher than that that have the same level of award.  I know it says they were given a chance to apply for a grace period, but that should just be in place regardless.  The current farce just makes a mockery of the whole system.

Same goes for the next level down as I see that the Midland league that is full of Dundee and Angus clubs, which feeds into the Highland League playoff has never actually managed to produce a champion that is allowed to compete in the playoff.  I appreciate there are probably a fair few of the clubs that look at away trips to Wick and decide they're better staying put, but when you've no idea what teams are genuinely in line for promotion it's hard to keep an interest.

f**k the whole lot of the Bronze to Gold UEFA system. The system would be more fun if it was a measure of the Derry armys tans as they get pished topless in the backwaters of Albania on a European stramash. 

Whether we would make that system is another thing as i doubt 'red rah' would be included before the bronzing stage for many of the travelling contingent. 

Thank you. 

Edited 16 hours ago by Dundee-FC92

[Dee Bliss]

4 hours ago, stu2910 said:

Would be interesting to know if there's actually any relevance in being Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum.  If we can be Bronze in the top flight it's clearly not that important.  I guess stadium grades will maybe have an impact on those that are chosen for cup neutral venues, Scotland youths etc.  Can't see how the rest would have any actual impact though other than a pat on the back.

On a side note, it's an absolute joke what has happened with the pyramid play off.  IMO, under no circumstances should a club ever be refused promotion on any of these criteria, especially when there are clubs at the level they are trying to reach and even the one higher than that that have the same level of award.  I know it says they were given a chance to apply for a grace period, but that should just be in place regardless.  The current farce just makes a mockery of the whole system.

Same goes for the next level down as I see that the Midland league that is full of Dundee and Angus clubs, which feeds into the Highland League playoff has never actually managed to produce a champion that is allowed to compete in the playoff.  I appreciate there are probably a fair few of the clubs that look at away trips to Wick and decide they're better staying put, but when you've no idea what teams are genuinely in line for promotion it's hard to keep an interest.

Very poor stuff that Brechin haven’t taken Buckie’s place. Farcical again, Scottish football eh. 

[Wee jeemie]

19 minutes ago, Dee Bliss said:

Very poor stuff that Brechin haven’t taken Buckie’s place. Farcical again, Scottish football eh. 

Totally agree , if Buckie can’t play it , then surely Brechin should play in the playoffs 

[RandomGuy.]

19 hours ago, stu2910 said:

Is there anything that explains what’s required for each tier?  Youth, legal and ground are reasonably self explanatory, but first team?!

Also what the relevance is when RC passed them all but were refused.

First team are calculated using this sections.

- Training/coaching facilities

- Medical/First Aid facilities at training facility

- Medical/First Aid personnel at training facility

- Medical/First Aid personnel on matchdays.

- Medical record keeping/Medical examination frequency 

- First Team manager coaching badge level

- First Team coaching staff coaching badge level

- First Team Medical staff qualification level

- Physio/Sports Scientist qualification level

- First Team Goalkeeper coach coaching badge level

There's various different things within each that set out what level (Platinum, Gold, Silver, Bronze, Entry) you are.