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[Hammer Jag]

I’ve just listened to the podcast. It was as dreadful as I thought it would be.

It was clear from the outset that Lambert knows next to nothing about the current Scotland squad. When asked which young players he thought could go on to become regulars in the squad he paused before saying “err, McGregor and ehhh, the lad Forrest”. That’ll be 26 year old James Forrest who has 20 caps.  When describing  the passage of play leading up to the Dutch goal “Kenny McLean, is that his name?”.

We were then treated to more pearls of wisdom from Lambert and ‘Doddsy’ on who the next Scotland manager should be. Geoff Webster put Michael O’Neill’s name forward before Lambert quickly dismissed him by saying “it needs to be a Scot for me”.

Michael O’Neill lives in Edinburgh, started his managerial career in Scotland, spent much of his playing career in Scotland and watches numerous Scottish football matches every season as part of his Northern Ireland duties.

’Doddsy’ came at it from a similar angle. “He needs to be Scottish or British for me. He needs to understand how Scotland plays football . He needs to understand the British way. A foreigner would be a gamble.”

Where do you even start with this crap?

 

[shull]

Football - The Scottish Way 

Keeping us  unqualified since 1998.

[gannonball]

 

Pat Bonner is fine talking about football. The knowledge he lacks isn’t on the game itself, it’s about clubs other than Celtic.

 

 

 

I would agree with this, he has football knowledge but clearly hasnt really given scottish football any thought since he left 2 decades ago. He's had development roles with the FAI in the past.

If they are interviewing them for gigs (which I doubt) then they should be testing them on recent goings on in Scottish football before getting them on.

 

[1320Lichtie]

I’ve just listened to the podcast. It was as dreadful as I thought it would be.
It was clear from the outset that Lambert knows next to nothing about the current Scotland squad. When asked which young players he thought could go on to become regulars in the squad he paused before saying “err, McGregor and ehhh, the lad Forrest”. That’ll be 26 year old James Forrest who has 20 caps.  When describing  the passage of play leading up to the Dutch goal “Kenny McLean, is that his name?”.
We were then treated to more pearls of wisdom from Lambert and ‘Doddsy’ on who the next Scotland manager should be. Geoff Webster put Michael O’Neill’s name forward before Lambert quickly dismissed him by saying “it needs to be a Scot for me”.
Michael O’Neill lives in Edinburgh, started his managerial career in Scotland, spent much of his playing career in Scotland and watches numerous Scottish football matches every season as part of his Northern Ireland duties.
’Doddsy’ came at it from a similar angle. “He needs to be Scottish or British for me. He needs to understand how Scotland plays football . He needs to understand the British way. A foreigner would be a gamble.”
Where do you even start with this crap?
 

These guys should not get a platform to spout this pish, Sounness etc too, can’t believe people actually wanted them for the managers role. Their contempt for our game is a disgrace.

Their heads are turned to English football now, they’re the equivalent of the wanks that sit in the pub with their EPL tops on watching Gillette Soccer Saturday telling everyone that’s going to a Scottish game that Scottish football is shite.

Arseholes.

[RiG]

’Doddsy’ came at it from a similar angle. “He needs to be Scottish or British for me. He needs to understand how Scotland plays football . He needs to understand the British way. A foreigner would be a gamble.”
Where do you even start with this crap?
 

Ugh, straight away someone should have asked "What is the Scottish way of playing?" As mentioned recently it seems to be not qualifying whilst being negative shitebags. We should definitely stick with that approach (!)

[Scary Bear]

I’ve just listened to the podcast. It was as dreadful as I thought it would be.
It was clear from the outset that Lambert knows next to nothing about the current Scotland squad. When asked which young players he thought could go on to become regulars in the squad he paused before saying “err, McGregor and ehhh, the lad Forrest”. That’ll be 26 year old James Forrest who has 20 caps.  When describing  the passage of play leading up to the Dutch goal “Kenny McLean, is that his name?”.
We were then treated to more pearls of wisdom from Lambert and ‘Doddsy’ on who the next Scotland manager should be. Geoff Webster put Michael O’Neill’s name forward before Lambert quickly dismissed him by saying “it needs to be a Scot for me”.
Michael O’Neill lives in Edinburgh, started his managerial career in Scotland, spent much of his playing career in Scotland and watches numerous Scottish football matches every season as part of his Northern Ireland duties.
’Doddsy’ came at it from a similar angle. “He needs to be Scottish or British for me. He needs to understand how Scotland plays football . He needs to understand the British way. A foreigner would be a gamble.”
Where do you even start with this crap?
 

I hope Dodds gets a job again soon. If only to get him off the airwaves again.

The only tradition we have these days is not qualifying for tournaments and employing managers who are stubborn, annoying losers.

[Monkey Tennis]

6 hours ago, Hammer Jag said:

I’ve just listened to the podcast. It was as dreadful as I thought it would be.

It was clear from the outset that Lambert knows next to nothing about the current Scotland squad. When asked which young players he thought could go on to become regulars in the squad he paused before saying “err, McGregor and ehhh, the lad Forrest”. That’ll be 26 year old James Forrest who has 20 caps.  When describing  the passage of play leading up to the Dutch goal “Kenny McLean, is that his name?”.

We were then treated to more pearls of wisdom from Lambert and ‘Doddsy’ on who the next Scotland manager should be. Geoff Webster put Michael O’Neill’s name forward before Lambert quickly dismissed him by saying “it needs to be a Scot for me”.

Michael O’Neill lives in Edinburgh, started his managerial career in Scotland, spent much of his playing career in Scotland and watches numerous Scottish football matches every season as part of his Northern Ireland duties.

’Doddsy’ came at it from a similar angle. “He needs to be Scottish or British for me. He needs to understand how Scotland plays football . He needs to understand the British way. A foreigner would be a gamble.”

Where do you even start with this crap?

 

Both dreading and looking forward to listening to this now.

Lambert is an absolute balloon.

The thing that gets me is that even if he did know very little about our game and squad, how hard would it be, if he's serious about being considered for the job, to do a wee bit of studying on it, before going on the radio?  It just shows, not only his ignorance, but his complete lack of care, respect and willingness to learn.

He's a fundamentally stupid man.  His chances of being appointed must be quite good.

[7-2]

8 hours ago, Hammer Jag said:

Doddsy’ came at it from a similar angle. “He needs to be Scottish or British for me. He needs to understand how Scotland plays football . He needs to understand the British way. A foreigner would be a gamble."

Sounds a bit similar to a club needing their next manager to be one of them and understand it's history and traditions. There's a coincidence.

[D.A.F.C]

You would think pat bonner would take time to read up on other teams other than Celtic seen as its his actual job.

talks for five mins about one Celtic player then mentions "yer wee tricky boy for Kilmarnock there looks ok"

Apart from on/off the ball it's terrible. 

[gannonball]

I’ve just listened to the podcast. It was as dreadful as I thought it would be.
It was clear from the outset that Lambert knows next to nothing about the current Scotland squad. When asked which young players he thought could go on to become regulars in the squad he paused before saying “err, McGregor and ehhh, the lad Forrest”. That’ll be 26 year old James Forrest who has 20 caps.  When describing  the passage of play leading up to the Dutch goal “Kenny McLean, is that his name?”.
We were then treated to more pearls of wisdom from Lambert and ‘Doddsy’ on who the next Scotland manager should be. Geoff Webster put Michael O’Neill’s name forward before Lambert quickly dismissed him by saying “it needs to be a Scot for me”.
Michael O’Neill lives in Edinburgh, started his managerial career in Scotland, spent much of his playing career in Scotland and watches numerous Scottish football matches every season as part of his Northern Ireland duties.
’Doddsy’ came at it from a similar angle. “He needs to be Scottish or British for me. He needs to understand how Scotland plays football . He needs to understand the British way. A foreigner would be a gamble.”
Where do you even start with this crap?
 

Listened to the podcast of it and thought Lamberts knowledge of scottish football was pretty bad considering hes not been away for that long. Quite amusing going on about it needing to be scottish when you would think one of the benefits would be knowing the local game but thats not the case for a lot of supposed options.

[G-MAN]

Great line from Willie tonight.

 

"That Rangers statement wouldn't have filled me with confidence, if I was a Rangers supporter. Chick how do you feel about that Statement as a Rangers supporter" ????????????????????????

 

[David W]

So today they sat back and panned a competition which may well not be everyone's (or anyone's) favourite, yet still brings in sponsorship and TV money. Indeed, it contributes more to the Scottish game each year than Chick Young ever has. He even somehow claimed that St Mirren losing the final last year helped them stay up.

On top of this, they had their perfect opportunity to pay a bit more respect to the lower divisions and maybe send someone out to some of the League 1/2 games. Instead, you had an interview with some Irish journalist about their play-off tonight and more inane discussion between the completely thick Miller and Young.

An absolute embarrassment of a programme.

[DA Baracus]

Is Cosgrove going senile? He seems to make a lot of errors in terms of recollection these days whereas before he came across as quite knowledgeable, especially about lower league teams.

[Hammer Jag]

28 minutes ago, David W said:

So today they sat back and panned a competition which may well not be everyone's (or anyone's) favourite, yet still brings in sponsorship and TV money. Indeed, it contributes more to the Scottish game each year than Chick Young ever has. He even somehow claimed that St Mirren losing the final last year helped them stay up.

On top of this, they had their perfect opportunity to pay a bit more respect to the lower divisions and maybe send someone out to some of the League 1/2 games. Instead, you had an interview with some Irish journalist about their play-off tonight and more inane discussion between the completely thick Miller and Young.

An absolute embarrassment of a programme.

I turned it on in the car just before 15:45, expecting to hear updates from today’s lower league and Irn Bru Cup games. Silly me, I should have known better.

They were in the middle of yet another ‘let’s all salivate over Celtic and Brendan’ session. Chic Young’s sycophancy and inability to even speak properly made me want to swerve into oncoming traffic. As if that wasn’t bad enough, we were then treated to some no-mark Scouse journalist offering his opinion on the English perception of Rodgers’ success in Scotland. How many fucking times are we going to have to suffer this debate?

They then started to discuss last night’s England performance in relative depth. Switched off after that.

Edited November 11, 2017 by Hammer Jag

[scoobles]

Is Cosgrove going senile? He seems to make a lot of errors in terms of recollection these days whereas before he came across as quite knowledgeable, especially about lower league teams.

Cosgrove's memory is great for Northern/Atlantic/Motown.
For Scottish fitba? St J and the Dons and a hatred for the Dees is about it. (The OF hatred is a given)
Top lad!

[AGPar]

1 hour ago, David W said:

So today they sat back and panned a competition which may well not be everyone's (or anyone's) favourite, yet still brings in sponsorship and TV money. Indeed, it contributes more to the Scottish game each year than Chick Young ever has. He even somehow claimed that St Mirren losing the final last year helped them stay up.

On top of this, they had their perfect opportunity to pay a bit more respect to the lower divisions and maybe send someone out to some of the League 1/2 games. Instead, you had an interview with some Irish journalist about their play-off tonight and more inane discussion between the completely thick Miller and Young.

An absolute embarrassment of a programme.

Yep, a perfect opportunity to give some coverage to the lower league teams. Nah, too much effort, let's just sit in a studio sneering at and slaughtering anything not connected to the two cheeks.

The discussion about United's appointment of Laszlo beggared belief. Dinosaur Miller appeared to barely know who he was, so just rambled on about Ivan Golac for a bit. New depths were then plumbed when the contemptible Dung claimed he hadn't worked since leaving Hearts (the thick end of eight years ago!!) This went pretty much unchallenged until Gordon briefly removed Millers cock from his mouth and rambled something about him having had a job in Lithuania, but he clearly hadn't a clue either and didn't even seem to know what nationality he was. The gist of the discussion was "How did this funny foreigner get it when our mate Doddsy is currently out of a job?" 

Thicko Ferguson and Fatty Boyd were obviously too busy washing their hair, so Chris Burke was dragged in to fill the Sevco quota and spout the "Rangerz needs a good Rangerz man" mantra. He had less personality and life than a dead sheep.

Abysmal, abysmal stuff 

[Monkey Tennis]

1 hour ago, DA Baracus said:

Is Cosgrove going senile? He seems to make a lot of errors in terms of recollection these days whereas before he came across as quite knowledgeable, especially about lower league teams.

They get almost everything wrong, the pair of them on that programme.

It really annoys me.  They just talk rubbish now.  It was a decent show in its day, but that was ages ago.

[Hammer Jag]

Cosgrove is as boring as his team.

’St Johnstone, Perth, Northern Soul’ zzzzzzzz

[Swordfishtrombone]

3 hours ago, AGPar said:

Yep, a perfect opportunity to give some coverage to the lower league teams. Nah, too much effort, let's just sit in a studio sneering at and slaughtering anything not connected to the two cheeks.

The discussion about United's appointment of Laszlo beggared belief. Dinosaur Miller appeared to barely know who he was, so just rambled on about Ivan Golac for a bit. New depths were then plumbed when the contemptible Dung claimed he hadn't worked since leaving Hearts (the thick end of eight years ago!!) This went pretty much unchallenged until Gordon briefly removed Millers cock from his mouth and rambled something about him having had a job in Lithuania, but he clearly hadn't a clue either and didn't even seem to know what nationality he was. The gist of the discussion was "How did this funny foreigner get it when our mate Doddsy is currently out of a job?" 

Thicko Ferguson and Fatty Boyd were obviously too busy washing their hair, so Chris Burke was dragged in to fill the Sevco quota and spout the "Rangerz needs a good Rangerz man" mantra. He had less personality and life than a dead sheep.

Abysmal, abysmal stuff 

I heard a little bit of it earlier on I had no idea that was Chris Burke his accent is like the die hard Celtic fan that Jonathan Watson plays in only an excuse.  

Willie Miller seemed to object to Laszlo getting the Utd job a bit too much, you would think Laszlo was a foreign rookie with no knowledge of Scottish football the way he went on.  It was all pretty dire.

[C4mmy31]

To all the Boydie haters, he appears to not give a flying f**k, what anyone thinks...... Lol

 

Kris Boyd appears to have spent months now rubbing people up the wrong way but the funny thing is, more often than not he has been right. First there was Ian Cathro. Then it was Pedro Caixinha. This week it has been his withering comments about Aberdeen’s Graeme Shinnie, whom Boyd had predicted would not get a game against Holland at Pittodrie on Thursday night. People once more scoffed at his blunt, know-all style but, sure as fate, Shinnie was nowhere to be seen in a Scotland shirt against the Dutch.

 

As a pundit on TV, radio and in his Sun on Sunday column the Kilmarnock striker is taking a haymaker to issues just as he has spent his career putting a size 11 boot through a ball and into opposition nets. For years this brusque Ayrshireman was no-one’s idea of a football pundit in the making but he appears to revel in the role.

 

“I can be pretty headstrong but I think the guy in the street can relate to me,” says Boyd. “I don’t try to be clever and use big words. I just give my straight, honest opinion, plus, I’m not really swayed by who my friends are.”

 

This last comment cuts right to the heart of the Boyd approach in his new role as an opinion gunslinger. The 34-year-old is scathing to the point of contempt about some fellow-pundits — and written journalists — who he sees as forever grovelling and soft-soaping to friends they might have within the game.

 

“I see journalists who have got friends in football, and they stick up for them constantly,” he says. “They gloss over things, in print or on air, depending on who their pals are. I totally disagree with that. Just give an opinion and give it honestly.

 

“I’ve seen people — paid pundits — who will stick up for the same people, even though they might have failed in job after job. When you put yourself out there, you’ve got to be honest and say what you think. There are pundits who get paid good money, who don’t really say anything. It all depends on who their pals are.”

 

One other thing notable about Boyd: he has shown a knack for seeing things early and calling it. He was by no means alone in this but, in the cases of Cathro and Caixinha being appointed at Hearts and Rangers, he wasn’t one of those who waited months before proclaiming: “We knew all along that this was a risk.” Instead, he called it there and then, and correctly.

 

“If you are a pundit, don’t wait for something to happen — give your opinion there and then as you see it,” he says. “I’ve been in the game for years and I’ve finished every single coaching badge that is going: my B licence, my A licence and my Pro licence. So I think I know about football. I feel qualified.

 

“I know exactly what makes football clubs and football players tick. Plus, I speak to people and I listen. I never put myself in a position where I say something, without first having carefully thought about it.

 

“In the case of Ian Cathro, people thought I was just attacking a young manager. But I had been on coaching courses, I had spoken to people, and I had seen how Cathro worked. I knew exactly what I was talking about.

 

“Predictably, the people who stuck up for Cathro were those who were either close to him, or close to people around him, or tight with Craig Levein.

 

“After I criticised the Cathro appointment, and got flak for it, not one person inside the football world criticised what I had said. They knew that I knew what I was talking about.”

 

This week Boyd caused another fuss with his comments last Monday about Shinnie. Brazenly, he announced on BBC Scotland’s Sportsound that Shinnie wouldn’t see any action against Holland on Thursday night, provoking some to take him to task. Not for the first time he was proved correct. Shinnie didn’t feature against the Dutch.

 

“The thing was, I was making the point in the context of Scotland players. But the job guys like Graeme Shinnie have done for Aberdeen has been fantastic. There is no getting away from that: a series of second-place finishes in the league and cup finals and the rest of it. In terms of their club, it’s not an issue, Shinnie has been fantastic, there has hardly been anyone better. All I was saying was he wasn’t — and isn’t — good enough for Scotland.”

 

If Boyd does ever ventures into management, he says his past experiences and current media work have taught him to be “calculating”. Managers and coaches have always had friendships with reporters but, says Boyd, there are pitfalls to be avoided and better roads to be taken.

 

“Good managers can be close to journalists, but they know how to use the media,” he says. “If you take Walter Smith as an example. Walter had a lot of friends in the media. He had the press eating out of the palm of his hand. He knew when it was time to get onside with them, and when it was time to cut his ties with them.

 

“He used the media to his advantage. He was clever about it. He knew exactly when to take the flak and when not to fight back. A lot of managers choose to fight back, but it is very obvious when a manager is not getting it right, when something is going wrong. Don’t fight fire with fire. The best managers, like Walter, take themselves out of that. There is a clever way to do it. But you need to understand football. You need to understand how it works. And Walter had that.

 

“Managing the media is a key thing for a football manager today. It is almost as hard and important to manage that as it is to manage your players. Social media has obviously changed everything. It has given idiots, basically, a platform on which to abuse people.

 

“People are chained to their screens who don’t really have any other life. For everything good that social media has offered the world, it has also thrown up many negatives.

 

“That has made it even more difficult to be a manager. Comments and criticisms are everywhere. That is why I think a manager has to be more calculated in what he says, otherwise he is made to look a fool.”

 

Amid all this the Boyd goals keep coming. Now 17 seasons at it, he rammed home another one against Hearts last week, and then goaded the Gorgie faithful who had been suggesting he was “a fat b*****d”. He says he is revived, as is Kilmarnock FC, by the arrival of Steve Clarke.

 

“The impact he’s had on Kilmarnock has been clear to see,” Boyd says of Clarke. “He has made everything gel. There is a purpose in everything he does.

 

“Look at Stevie’s cv. He has automatically gained the players’ respect. He is crystal clear in what he wants. A lot of coaches put on sessions with no clear purpose and you wonder, ‘What is he talking about?’ With Stevie Clarke there is none of that. You know exactly what he wants. I think this could be a real turning point for Kilmarnock FC.”

 

And what about Boyd himself … when will he retire? “I’ll never retire,” he says with a smile. “If I’m not on the pitch, I’ll either be in a dugout or a studio. I love football.”

 

(Graham Spiers, The Times)