Moorie Posted Tuesday at 16:46 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:46 1 hour ago, Rodhull said: Leven being looked at down south. Would be a little surprising. He's steadied the ship a bit but not like it's been an amazing turnaround under him or anything. Clearly the press just linking him with random jobs off the back of a few decent results. I hope he’s kept on at the club in a decent position as he deserves it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted Tuesday at 17:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:22 What's everyone's take on the squad priorities for the rebuild? Assuming yimmy's preferred 433 GK- roos away. No 1 needed. Doohan - good enough back up? Doubt it but lowish priority? Richie- project, under contract until next year. Will he make it or is it too early to tell for a keeper? Need 1x starter, maybe ok for back up. RB- Richardson back-yay! Milne- looked good in semi but was patchy before. Worth persevering i think. Devlin- great attitude and commitment. Ok going forward but a terrible defender. Should be back up. Need 1x starter. Fine for back up. CB- assuming back four and Gartenmen away. Rubezic- has improved hugely in the imagination with each week out. Probably a reasonable starter alongside an experienced foreman. Jensen - just a bit lacking in most departments. Capable of good games. Will probably have to do as back up. McDonald- Meat and potatoes defender with suspect decision making; occasional bombscare. Good back up. Need 1x starter minimum LB McKenzie - improved since Barry left. Largely coped with all non OF wingers and we don't have europe next season so probably low priority to replace. Can do job as starter. McGarry - shown little but looks shite. Hayes- looks like coaching now. Ngwena-? Need 1x cover/project. Midfield Assuming we go with a three and Baron is away. Shinnie - still a starter for me. Might start to need managed a bit more-succession plan required. Polvara - still a project? Needs to step up. Can look really good and like a wee boy in the same ten minutes. Definitely worth squad berth. McGrath - Starter for me. No question. Clarkson - on own merits, a starter. If McGrath is starting in a three, we'd be a bit light with both in there. Alternating starts and supersub appearances. Duncan- looked better when he was a winger. Looks a bit lost in the middle. Marshall -? Need 1x aggressive type plus possibly all rounder cover/project. Wingers Vincente- honestly f**k knows. Looks talented. Hasn't taken chances. Must piss coaches off. Morris - he can run fast but has no end product. If we're leading in a game he'd be useful to take the ball into the corner, so long as he doesn't have to cross it. Duk? - would he be left of a three? I'll say yes. If he lays off the natas and super bock over the summer. Sokkler- could be right of a three. Has pace but not seen much on the ball. Probably needed in the middle. Need 1x starter + 1x project back up. Striker Bojan - just about the required standard. Stick. Sokler - looks like he has something. Not a Miovski but looks more than SPL level decent. Worth starting assuming that Miovski will actually be funding the rebuild. Guye- looked like he was on glue when he got a chance but there must be something about him. Enigma. Duk- is he a striker? Possibly. Bavidge -? Need 1x project (could be Bavidge) I make that: 2 x keepers, 1 to start 1 x starting RB 1 x starting CB 1x squad LB 1x midfield General 2x wingers, 1 to start 1x project striker That’s minimum really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leomessi1984 Posted yesterday at 07:28 Share Posted yesterday at 07:28 Alfie Bavidge....absolute gem you guys have there. He'll likely be in & around the first team next season for you. Thanks for keeping the great loans going to us. Barron, NgWenya, Milne & now Bavidge who's been the best of the lot. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorie Posted yesterday at 11:30 Share Posted yesterday at 11:30 17 hours ago, coprolite said: What's everyone's take on the squad priorities for the rebuild? Assuming yimmy's preferred 433 GK- roos away. No 1 needed. Doohan - good enough back up? Doubt it but lowish priority? Richie- project, under contract until next year. Will he make it or is it too early to tell for a keeper? Need 1x starter, maybe ok for back up. RB- Richardson back-yay! Milne- looked good in semi but was patchy before. Worth persevering i think. Devlin- great attitude and commitment. Ok going forward but a terrible defender. Should be back up. Need 1x starter. Fine for back up. CB- assuming back four and Gartenmen away. Rubezic- has improved hugely in the imagination with each week out. Probably a reasonable starter alongside an experienced foreman. Jensen - just a bit lacking in most departments. Capable of good games. Will probably have to do as back up. McDonald- Meat and potatoes defender with suspect decision making; occasional bombscare. Good back up. Need 1x starter minimum LB McKenzie - improved since Barry left. Largely coped with all non OF wingers and we don't have europe next season so probably low priority to replace. Can do job as starter. McGarry - shown little but looks shite. Hayes- looks like coaching now. Ngwena-? Need 1x cover/project. Midfield Assuming we go with a three and Baron is away. Shinnie - still a starter for me. Might start to need managed a bit more-succession plan required. Polvara - still a project? Needs to step up. Can look really good and like a wee boy in the same ten minutes. Definitely worth squad berth. McGrath - Starter for me. No question. Clarkson - on own merits, a starter. If McGrath is starting in a three, we'd be a bit light with both in there. Alternating starts and supersub appearances. Duncan- looked better when he was a winger. Looks a bit lost in the middle. Marshall -? Need 1x aggressive type plus possibly all rounder cover/project. Wingers Vincente- honestly f**k knows. Looks talented. Hasn't taken chances. Must piss coaches off. Morris - he can run fast but has no end product. If we're leading in a game he'd be useful to take the ball into the corner, so long as he doesn't have to cross it. Duk? - would he be left of a three? I'll say yes. If he lays off the natas and super bock over the summer. Sokkler- could be right of a three. Has pace but not seen much on the ball. Probably needed in the middle. Need 1x starter + 1x project back up. Striker Bojan - just about the required standard. Stick. Sokler - looks like he has something. Not a Miovski but looks more than SPL level decent. Worth starting assuming that Miovski will actually be funding the rebuild. Guye- looked like he was on glue when he got a chance but there must be something about him. Enigma. Duk- is he a striker? Possibly. Bavidge -? Need 1x project (could be Bavidge) I make that: 2 x keepers, 1 to start 1 x starting RB 1 x starting CB 1x squad LB 1x midfield General 2x wingers, 1 to start 1x project striker That’s minimum really. Can’t see many changes right away. Barron & Roos out of contract will be away. Gartenmann end of loan. Maybe a few might be released/sent on loan but can’t see us realising players as going cost us. The big on will be keeping hold of Miovski I do expect a big offer this summer for him. Just as long as the club stick to their guns and we don’t panic on the last hour of the transfer window and sell him them just to get the money. Realistically seeing us maybe take 3/4 in this summer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted yesterday at 11:41 Share Posted yesterday at 11:41 I'd imagine there was a gentlemans agreement in place with Bojan when we were turning down big offers last summer. He's more than done his time as far as I am concerned. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted yesterday at 11:51 Share Posted yesterday at 11:51 18 minutes ago, Moorie said: Can’t see many changes right away. Barron & Roos out of contract will be away. Gartenmann end of loan. Maybe a few might be released/sent on loan but can’t see us realising players as going cost us. The big on will be keeping hold of Miovski I do expect a big offer this summer for him. Just as long as the club stick to their guns and we don’t panic on the last hour of the transfer window and sell him them just to get the money. Realistically seeing us maybe take 3/4 in this summer 6 minutes ago, DukDukGoose said: I'd imagine there was a gentlemans agreement in place with Bojan when we were turning down big offers last summer. He's more than done his time as far as I am concerned. I can't see us keeping Miovski and think the best we can hope for is a good sale- early in the window for a good cash fee-to fund a rebuild. I'd love another season though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted yesterday at 11:56 Share Posted yesterday at 11:56 6 minutes ago, DukDukGoose said: I'd imagine there was a gentlemans agreement in place with Bojan when we were turning down big offers last summer. He's more than done his time as far as I am concerned. Yeah agreed he will be away and he’s earned that. It’s all in the model. I haven’t given it nearly enough thought to go through each position tbh but my hope would be that we don’t once again try and revamp everything in one window. would be good if we could prioritise 3-5 key positions and focus on getting those right now, then identifying young players we’ve earmarked for development and from then you look at shorter term options through loan deals or more mundane spfl signings. We then develop on it during subsequent windows. As a quick run through, I’d say the spine of the team - keeper, centre half and centre midfield (with a particular focus on bringing the right balance to it) are the top priorities, then An attacking option that provides more width and pace, then maybe fullback/striker. If we have a good window on the spine of the team then I’m happy to accept sticking with some mediocre players like devlin etc in the shorter term if needed. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STFU_Donny Posted yesterday at 12:15 Share Posted yesterday at 12:15 I would like to see a couple of enforcer types in at CB and DMF. A new keeper even if Roos stays, we need competition in that area. And some much needed width in the team. Bojan will go but I think Sokler could take over there with Bavidge getting some first team minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted yesterday at 12:19 Share Posted yesterday at 12:19 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: more mundane spfl signings. I think the model the club are following is absolutely correct. The market for UK nationals is now so fked up due to post-Brexit quotas, that there's just little value for money. In the domestic market, we got definite success in the past decade in moving for standout players from the smaller-budget top flight clubs (e.g. Shinnie, McLean, Hayes, Ferguson). Hearts landing Dhanda, Spittal and that Livi jobber is maybe a step down from that (Devlin level signings) - but right now the likely destination for the brightest looking prospects - McCowan, Cameron or Armstrong would likely be the English Championship. This is almost certainly what Barron has his mind set on. Shopping in the nordic and eastern European markets is probably like a trip to TK Maxx. A lot of crap to look through, but in there somewhere are a couple of gems. I note JT has used the African market significantly too judging by Elfsborg's current squad, so our recruitment dude will be busy with those Mali second division matches. Edited yesterday at 12:36 by tarapoa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted yesterday at 12:35 Share Posted yesterday at 12:35 12 minutes ago, tarapoa said: I think the model the club are following is absolutely correct. The market for UK nationals is now so fked up due to post-Brexit quotas, that there's just little value for money. In the domestic market, we got definite success in the past decade in moving for standout players from the smaller-budget top flights (e.g. Shinnie, McLean, Hayes, Ferguson). Hearts landing Dhanda, Spittal and that Livi jobber is maybe a step down from that (Devlin level signings) - but right now the likely destination for the brightest looking prospects - McCowan, Cameron or Armstrong would likely be the English Championship. This is almost certainly what Barron has his mind set on. Shopping in the nordic and eastern European markets is probably like a trip to TK Maxx. A lot of crap to look through, but in there somewhere are a couple of gems. I note JT has used the African market significantly too judging by Elfsborg's current squad, so our recruitment dude will be busy with those Mali second division matches. I like our model but I think it requires balance. We can’t build an entire team of data led players like we have in previous windows. Signing fewer of those players with a greater level of due diligence and supplementing that with a domestic market (yes brexit has changed it but McGrath and devlin are, unfortunately, two of the best signings from the summer) and loan market to ensure the squad is competitive seems to be a reasonable tweak to the current model, in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted yesterday at 12:42 Share Posted yesterday at 12:42 25 minutes ago, STFU_Donny said: I would like to see a couple of enforcer types in at CB and DMF. A new keeper even if Roos stays, we need competition in that area. And some much needed width in the team. Bojan will go but I think Sokler could take over there with Bavidge getting some first team minutes. There is definitely a lot of potential in Sokler. We don't necessarily need him to reach Bojan levels. Others need to step up to the table and score a few more goals. McGrath aside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersand Posted yesterday at 14:12 Share Posted yesterday at 14:12 1 hour ago, DukDukGoose said: There is definitely a lot of potential in Sokler. We don't necessarily need him to reach Bojan levels. Others need to step up to the table and score a few more goals. McGrath aside. Agree with all this. Sokler may well have been a contingency signing last summer - affordable enough to have as an extra body if Miovski stayed; good enough to use a lot if a huge offer had come in for Miovski late in August. We got him in mid-window I think? I'd be happy to go with him as 9 next season, with Duk hopefully finding better form and minutes for Bavidge. We realistically need to see if there's anything to be got from Gueye as well, assuming Kristiansund aren't about to cough up most of our outlay on him. The Miovski money will partly be spent on the scouting network and youth system, won't it? What goes into the transfer budget should be spent further back in the team. Agree with @Moorie that we won't release many - it's wasteful. Unless someone wants to buy them off us, McGarry, Jensen, McDonald and Doohan will all be around next season I expect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiJock Posted yesterday at 15:06 Share Posted yesterday at 15:06 What sort of striker is Bavidge? Target man? Poacher? Ball-player? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leomessi1984 Posted yesterday at 17:00 Share Posted yesterday at 17:00 1 hour ago, SamuraiJock said: What sort of striker is Bavidge? Target man? Poacher? Ball-player? Quick & direct, dribbling wide forward with an eye for goal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kelle-roos-wants-crunch-talks-32664337 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 49 minutes ago, DukDukGoose said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kelle-roos-wants-crunch-talks-32664337 'crunch talks' He says nothing of the sort. Shite journalism, not unexpected from that rag tho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Everyone knows ‘keeping my options open’ is the standard out of contract line here. Irresponsible of everyone involved to move away from it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Could really do with an 'unnamed Chinese club' ready to bid 30million for Miovski. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia Gentile Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 24 minutes ago, GTG_03 said: Could really do with an 'unnamed Saudi club' ready to bid 30million for Miovski. FTFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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