Moo Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Ahh nice one, a successful campaign will hopefully see us into pot two for the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeither Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Too much optimism. This doesn't sit right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 If England perform as they have the last campaign, and we continue picking up the points we have recently under Strachan, we'll overtake England within the year by my maths. Of course, a result of some form against Germany and then beating England at Hampden could be enough to do it this year. What? Remain unbeaten? It would take England to take a pretty considerable dip for us to overtake them, or us to have an absolute dream campaign. Neither are really that likely to happen. Are England really going to slip up against the might of San Marino, Slovenia, Estonia, Lithuania and Switzerland? They will be massive favourites to finish top of that group fairly easily, as they should be. They're a good qualifying team after all. But even if they did slip up massively, we'd probably have to beat Germany, Poland, Ireland etc and then beat England as well. It's nowhere near as foregone a conclusion as you seem to be making out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Should Scotland qualify for Euro 2016, which measurement is used to decide who goes in to what pot for the group stage? Is it conceivable that a qualified Scotland could be in the second pot out of four given the decent position they currently have in the World Rankings, or does 18 years without being in a tournament mean they're likely to be lower? Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 What? Remain unbeaten? It would take England to take a pretty considerable dip for us to overtake them, or us to have an absolute dream campaign. Neither are really that likely to happen. Are England really going to slip up against the might of San Marino, Slovenia, Estonia, Lithuania and Switzerland? They will be massive favourites to finish top of that group fairly easily, as they should be. They're a good qualifying team after all. But even if they did slip up massively, we'd probably have to beat Germany, Poland, Ireland etc and then beat England as well. It's nowhere near as foregone a conclusion as you seem to be making out. Switzerland are no mugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Are England really going to slip up against the might of San Marino, Slovenia, Estonia, Lithuania and Switzerland? Almost certainly not - but it'd be as funny as f**k if they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Should Scotland qualify for Euro 2016, which measurement is used to decide who goes in to what pot for the group stage? Is it conceivable that a qualified Scotland could be in the second pot out of four given the decent position they currently have in the World Rankings, or does 18 years without being in a tournament mean they're likely to be lower? Ta. It's neither of those things. The UEFA national team coefficient would be used - it's based on a fairly complicated formula which includes results from Euro 2012 (qualifying and final tournament), WC 2014 (qualifying and final tournament) and Euro 2016 qualifying. This system is used for all UEFA draws - it was used to decide the pots for the qualifying groups too. Scotland were 31st at that stage, but if we qualified you'd imagine we'd be higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's neither of those things. The UEFA national team coefficient would be used - it's based on a fairly complicated formula which includes results from Euro 2012 (qualifying and final tournament), WC 2014 (qualifying and final tournament) and Euro 2016 qualifying. This system is used for all UEFA draws - it was used to decide the pots for the qualifying groups too. Scotland were 31st at that stage, but if we qualified you'd imagine we'd be higher. Am I right in saying that it's a pretty straight 1-24 seeding for the groups rather than the more complex World Cup geographical pots? So we'd look to be in the top 12 ideally in that case, which seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's neither of those things. The UEFA national team coefficient would be used - it's based on a fairly complicated formula which includes results from Euro 2012 (qualifying and final tournament), WC 2014 (qualifying and final tournament) and Euro 2016 qualifying. This system is used for all UEFA draws - it was used to decide the pots for the qualifying groups too. Scotland were 31st at that stage, but if we qualified you'd imagine we'd be higher. Cheers. Surely then Scotland would be fourth seeds, maybe third at a push. I can't see there being another six teams as well as Scotland who haven't featured in any of the last few competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Am I right in saying that it's a pretty straight 1-24 seeding for the groups rather than the more complex World Cup geographical pots? So we'd look to be in the top 12 ideally in that case, which seems unlikely. Yeah - well that has always been the case in the past anyway. France as hosts will be seeded and then everyone else will be in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Up to 29th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kebab Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Up to 29th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Down to 32nd, joint with Iran and Republic of Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I bet Iran are fuming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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