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Mr Bairn

@ yes supporters: How will you react if the result is no

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When cameron et al wins his referendum to pull the UK out of europe in 2017, there will be another indy ref in Scotland within 3 yrs with a guaranteed yes vote. With regards to the immediate future i will personally challenge every no voter who sings flower of scotland, think 3rd verse, in hampden or murrayfield

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Leave the country.

Although I will be out of the country anyway when the vote takes place. And when the result comes in. And for more than a year afterwards.

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Scotland is an ancient nation that has been around for millennia. It has a reputation and history of being fearless, courageous and brave around the globe.

A no vote throws all of that straight out the window for me.

In places like Quebec and Catalonia, independence is arguably more about identity and cultural suppression than politics or economics. To the outside world these places aren't viewed as nations like Scotland is. Our constitutional debate is overwhelmingly about political and economic arguments.

Word salad.

Quebec and Catalonia are structural land masses containing indigenous people. The fact that Scotland has a football team doesn't differentiate it.

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I'll be submitting my application for Australian citizenship pretty certain in the fact that I will never come back to live in Scotland.

I would not want to live in a country that has shown no balls and even less brains.

Scotland will be neutered and humiliated for at least a generation.

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For various reasons I'll likely be on my way out of the country for a few years in either case. As such it's more likely to have an effect on whether I feel like coming back. I've little desire to raise a family in what will be a permanently ghettoised corner of Greater London.

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Acquire an Irish passport, emigrate to Canada and tell everyone my ancestors fought and died for their political independence.

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Goodness me, with all these separatists leaving the country after the no vote in September there is going to be no need for another referendum in 20 years or so, there's only going to be no voters left!

What a shame.

:)

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Most normal people wouldn't see plane loads of people of whatever political persuasion leaving to never come back as a positive thing. Especially in a country that is already struggling to grow its population.

But that's unionism for you - happy for the nation to be damaged as long as it's flying the correct flag.

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Most normal people wouldn't see plane loads of people of whatever political persuasion leaving to never come back as a positive thing. Especially in a country that is already struggling to grow its population.

But that's unionism for you - happy for the nation to be damaged as long as it's flying the correct flag.

Except that only a couple of hundred hard liners will actually leave....

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If things keep going like they are going now then a lot more than that will leave.

Why do you think Scotland has a static population? It's not because we're doing less shagging. It's because so many people have had to leave due to lack of opportunity. Most of these people simply will not return and as the situation worsens (as I'm convinced it will if we vote no) then more and more people are going to be forced to look elsewhere for work.

Fun fact - 80% of private sector jobs are being created in London. Just one small example of how fucked up and unbalanced this "union" is.

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This thread is like a delicious taster of what this forum is going to be like in a little over 6 months. I can't wait.

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This thread is like a delicious taster of what this forum is going to be like in a little over 6 months. I can't wait.

^^^

No baws, no national pride, no patriotism.

IMO, of course.

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No baws, no national pride, no patriotism.

IMO, of course.

You're entitled to believe whatever you like. For example, I think you're a thick c*nt.

Although, like a stopped clock once a day, you actually have one thing right. I think patriotism is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not particularly proud to be Scottish, it's not like I chose to be born here. Scotland has some good points and some bad ones. Unlike what many cybernats seem to think, I don't think that Scots are morally superior to those in rUK. As George Bernard Shaw said, 'patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it'.

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Dejected, would want to leave but probably wouldn't be able to for a while

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If things keep going like they are going now then a lot more than that will leave.

Why do you think Scotland has a static population? It's not because we're doing less shagging. It's because so many people have had to leave due to lack of opportunity. Most of these people simply will not return and as the situation worsens (as I'm convinced it will if we vote no) then more and more people are going to be forced to look elsewhere for work.

Fun fact - 80% of private sector jobs are being created in London. Just one small example of how fucked up and unbalanced this "union" is.

What a complete load of tosh. More people immigrate into Scotland than emigrate out of it, so that second paragraph is complete nonsense. Indeed I will quote The Scottish governments own website to rip your post apart:

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Population-Migration

' In recent years Scotland has seen positive natural change (births minus deaths) and has experienced record levels of net in migration, resulting in small increases in population over each of the last 7 years '

As for your second point, London is the capital of the nation with a population almost double that of Scotland. Of course most private sector investment is going to be there. Although the overly large ratio is a problem for the rest of the union, not just Scotland.

Do you really think a yes vote is going to result in more private sector investment into Scotland? Really? Have you heard what Standard Life and the banks have been saying in the last week? They're making plans to up sticks and leave if we vote yes, and who can blame them? Businesses don't want independence, trade unions don't want independence.

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What a complete load of tosh. More people immigrate into Scotland than emigrate out of it, so that second paragraph is complete nonsense. Indeed I will quote The Scottish governments own website to rip your post apart:

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Population-Migration

' In recent years Scotland has seen positive natural change (births minus deaths) and has experienced record levels of net in migration, resulting in small increases in population over each of the last 7 years '

As for your second point, London is the capital of the nation with a population almost double that of Scotland. Of course most private sector investment is going to be there. Although the overly large ratio is a problem for the rest of the union, not just Scotland.

Do you really think a yes vote is going to result in more private sector investment into Scotland? Really? Have you heard what Standard Life and the banks have been saying in the last week? They're making plans to up sticks and leave if we vote yes, and who can blame them? Businesses don't want independence, trade unions don't want independence.

They haven't said that. That is a complete and utter lie.

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Have you heard what Standard Life and the banks have been saying in the last week?

I for one am flabbergasted that big players in the financial services industry, which has come out of the biggest recession in near enough a century without any negative repercussions whatsoever after having been largely responsible for it, would toe the line of the party firmly committed to more of the same.

I'm sure plenty of onionists stand around at their dinner parties scoffing that the jocks will be using shiny pebbles as currency in 2016, but somehow "financial Armageddon" has lost its ring these days.

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If things keep going like they are going now then a lot more than that will leave.

Why do you think Scotland has a static population? It's not because we're doing less shagging. It's because so many people have had to leave due to lack of opportunity. Most of these people simply will not return and as the situation worsens (as I'm convinced it will if we vote no) then more and more people are going to be forced to look elsewhere for work.

Fun fact - 80% of private sector jobs are being created in London. Just one small example of how fucked up and unbalanced this "union" is.

London is the capital city of the country. Of course businesses want to set up shop there.

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It won't really put me up or down. I like a bit of change, so I would be happy with a yes vote. However, I'm used to boring old Scotland.

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