Dee Man Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Very interesting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartsmfc Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Dee Man said: Despite what scientists say about the big bang, there was never a beginning. The universe has always existed. Take an acid and try and wrap your head around that one. That doesn't make any sense. How can something just have always existed? The older I get the more I start to believe in a creator 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 That doesn't make any sense. How can something just have always existed? The older I get the more I start to believe in a creator A creator that always existed? Brings in the good old 'what created the creator' question. What if there is no solid mass btw? If things are made of quarks, then what are they made of, and what are they made, and what are they... and so on infinitely. I like my, likely bollox, concocted idea of forces (as opposed to 'the Force'). Take two magnets in opposing from, push them together and it feels like there's something almost solid-like stopping them, despite there being nothing but air in between . Everything is similar to this; tight forces that make it feel / act like there's something there. Did anything create the rules of physics that result in gravity, waves etc and were these ever created? If not, have the forces just always been around? You heard it here first. [emoji6] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereismillar Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: I like the theory that the Universe expands to a point, then starts contracting again, before it gets so small it reaches singularity and explodes into a new universe all over again. Repeat forever. I sometimes wonder if you always have the same "life" every time, which is why you get deja vu, and why you can instantly regret a decision as you know fro previous experience it's the wrong one. Sounds like my wife .................... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 52 minutes ago, stuartsmfc said: That doesn't make any sense. How can something just have always existed? The older I get the more I start to believe in a creator Yes because living on a rock floating around a giant ball of fire in space makes perfect sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Hedgecutter said: A creator that always existed? Brings in the good old 'what created the creator' question. What if there is no solid mass btw? If things are made of quarks, then what are they made of, and what are they made, and what are they... and so on infinitely. I like my, likely bollox, concocted idea of forces (as opposed to 'the Force'). Take two magnets in opposing from, push them together and it feels like there's something almost solid-like stopping them, despite there being nothing but air in between . Everything is similar to this; tight forces that make it feel / act like there's something there. Did anything create the rules of physics that result in gravity, waves etc and were these ever created? If not, have the forces just always been around? You heard it here first. Strictly speaking, the Universe has been around forever, because time was created in the same instant. Regarding the matter thing: you're not far off. Atoms, from which we are all made, are 99.999..% nothing. Everything is held in place by forces. You never truly touch anything either, only feel the electrostatic forces repelling everything. I'd like to throw this one out there: What if there's only one electron in the Universe? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Strictly speaking, the Universe has been around forever, because time was created in the same instant. Regarding the matter thing: you're not far off. Atoms, from which we are all made, are 99.999..% nothing. Everything is held in place by forces. You never truly touch anything either, only feel the electrostatic forces repelling everything. I'd like to throw this one out there: What if there's only one electron in the Universe? That's a very negative way of looking at things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: A creator that always existed? Brings in the good old 'what created the creator' question. What if there is no solid mass btw? If things are made of quarks, then what are they made of, and what are they made, and what are they... and so on infinitely. I like my, likely bollox, concocted idea of forces (as opposed to 'the Force'). Take two magnets in opposing from, push them together and it feels like there's something almost solid-like stopping them, despite there being nothing but air in between . Everything is similar to this; tight forces that make it feel / act like there's something there. Did anything create the rules of physics that result in gravity, waves etc and were these ever created? If not, have the forces just always been around? You heard it here first. Thank f**k my weed smoking days are behind me. That last paragraph would have blown my stoned mind. Regarding the solid mass theory, most of everything is nothing. Theoretically, you should be able to walk straight through a door. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, Fide said: Thank f**k my weed smoking days are behind me. That last paragraph would have blown my stoned mind. Regarding the solid mass theory, most of everything is nothing. Theoretically, you should be able to walk straight through a door. Indeed, but you're suggesting that something of that is solid mass. In my deep expertise in everything hardcore physics, I propose that everything in the universe is similar to a photon in that it seems like a particle yet isn't. I'll be famous one day, probably not in my lifetime, but in 1000 years time humanity (on some other planet post-jungle lightspeed) will think "f***in' hell, how did the primitives work that out?!". Well, I did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: Indeed, but you're suggesting that something of that is solid mass. In my deep expertise in everything hardcore physics, I propose that everything in the universe is similar to a photon in that it seems like a particle yet isn't. I'll be famous one day, probably not in my lifetime, but in 1000 years time humanity (on some other planet post-jungle lightspeed) will think "f***in' hell, how did the primitives work that out?!". Well, I did. Outwith you unravelling of the mysteries of space and time, your post reminded me of a joke. A photon walks into a hotel and the concierge asks if he can take the photon's luggage. "No thanks", the photon says, "I'm travelling light". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Fide said: Outwith you unravelling of the mysteries of space and time, your post reminded me of a joke. A photon walks into a hotel and the concierge asks if he can take the photon's luggage. "No thanks", the photon says, "I'm travelling light". And I thought that all the good science jokes Argon as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: Indeed, but you're suggesting that something of that is solid mass. In my deep expertise in everything hardcore physics, I propose that everything in the universe is similar to a photon in that it seems like a particle yet isn't. I'll be famous one day, probably not in my lifetime, but in 1000 years time humanity (on some other planet post-jungle lightspeed) will think "f***in' hell, how did the primitives work that out?!". Well, I did. Matter is only solid energy my man. E = mc^2 remember. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartsmfc Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 If there is a creator then it is outside time and space meaning science can never prove or disprove it. Science explains how things work but can't explain why or how we are here. The whole thing fucks with my smashed mind 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 There are things that we'll simply never be able to comprehend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Force = Gravity * Myles Hippolyte You can go f**k off to the hairdressers queue ya bandy scrotum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 There's a lot of stuff in the universe that we'll just never know, like did Leia get pumped off Jabba the Hut in ROTJ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 If there is a creator then it is outside time and space meaning science can never prove or disprove it. Science explains how things work but can't explain why or how we are here. The whole thing fucks with my smashed mind Which means you have to define the word "is" before you proceed any further 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartsmfc Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Which means you have to define the word "is" before you proceed any further Define the creator of the universe? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 4 hours ago, stuartsmfc said: Define the creator of the universe? If that was possible, who was the creator of the creator of the universe? And so on and so on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyblair Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 My wife has a fascination for Dr Brian Cox and as such I bought us both tickets for his 'gig' at the Hydro. I basically sat for an hour and a half confused as f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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