FairWeatherFan Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 4 hours ago, cb_diamond said: The ending to the death match is horrendous. Just seen it. Horrible botch then just a ridiculous dangerous spot. The cut on his arm was reminiscent of the mad man pondo bloodbath from the early noughties. Can look cool in the moment, but rarely does in the aftermath and definitely not a day later when you hear they're having to have surgery because of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I don't mind the deathmatch stuff, but the problem with doing it as often as ICW have been doing it recently is that you then HAVE to up the ante, otherwise the spectacle is gone. And that's just fucking stupid. They need to wrap it for a while. On a positive note, apparently Lionheart vs. Polo was outstanding, and WALTER on night one of Shug's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Barramania was really good. The chain match is fucking terrible but the rest was worth a go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deego Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 On 29/04/2018 at 22:15, cb_diamond said: Fear and Loathing at the hydro again. Utterly baffling decision! Yeah, I didn't think they'd do it again this year but they probably don't want to come down from that level. Got to assume they're going to really push the marketing for it this year to punt tickets. I did notice that a large part of the floor is seated this year which should take up a bit of room. I was at one of Dallas's show things in Box the other month and he said he was probably done with bringing in big names like Mysterio etc. which I can imagine will hinder ticket sales. Can see them pulling someone in nearer the time when tickets aren't shifting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 7 hours ago, Deego said: Yeah, I didn't think they'd do it again this year but they probably don't want to come down from that level. Got to assume they're going to really push the marketing for it this year to punt tickets. I did notice that a large part of the floor is seated this year which should take up a bit of room. I was at one of Dallas's show things in Box the other month and he said he was probably done with bringing in big names like Mysterio etc. which I can imagine will hinder ticket sales. Can see them pulling someone in nearer the time when tickets aren't shifting. Agreed, the seats probably mean capacity will be down from the 7000 odd level to nearer 5000. Unfortunately I think their bubble has long burst popularity wise and won't ever return to the level of the first hydro show. It's a real shame as the product just now is much better than its been for years. I still maintain the utterly turgid and dragged out storyline about ownership in the year after the SECC show (still their highest point for me) killed their momentum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Nothing will reach the heights of Grado finally getting the title, it was glorious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Lightning Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I think it’s a one dimensional view to have about the ownership story. absolutely, everyone entitled to their own opinion and not here to start blasting people for having one but more presenting a different viewpoint... The story itself served as a platform for many performers who had gone on to serve the company well post hydro 2016. Helped excel Joe Coffey, for a short period Damo, helped catalyse a face turn for Sha Samuels, integrated Bram into the ICW fold which in turn allowed DCT to move in also off the back of their feud. It helped Drew Galloway further hone his craft and skills by giving him a creative outlet before he made his return to WWE. A lot of positives came out of it and the fruits of that labour came around in 2017 when it was all done with but a lot of characters were established across that two years and now have strong rapports with the ICW audience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 8 hours ago, Red Lightning said: I think it’s a one dimensional view to have about the ownership story. absolutely, everyone entitled to their own opinion and not here to start blasting people for having one but more presenting a different viewpoint... The story itself served as a platform for many performers who had gone on to serve the company well post hydro 2016. Helped excel Joe Coffey, for a short period Damo, helped catalyse a face turn for Sha Samuels, integrated Bram into the ICW fold which in turn allowed DCT to move in also off the back of their feud. It helped Drew Galloway further hone his craft and skills by giving him a creative outlet before he made his return to WWE. A lot of positives came out of it and the fruits of that labour came around in 2017 when it was all done with but a lot of characters were established across that two years and now have strong rapports with the ICW audience. I do agree with a lot of that to be fair and the basic premise of an ownership story can be fine. That one just dragged and dragged forever, "what's that a 6 man tag match with 13.3% of the company on the line" (I'm obviously being facetious, but that's what it felt like at times). I think the point has been made on here a few times, that it was the killing of momentum that a lot of people didn't like. You went straight from the SECC show, which was just unbelievably great to a massive year long overarching story that just didn't have a year in it. Would have to say as well that as much as you are bang on about other people getting a bit of exposure off the back of it the one thing that ICW has always been great at is bringing in new faces and making people care about them. Due to its position it's very top talents will always get poached away and it has to make new stars. (you're basically Hibs in the early 00s ). The quality just now is really good, the last couple of events I've been to were also really good. There just isn't the same buzz and although it would always plateau off anyway that messy storyline killed it off prematurely for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Anyone ready for a chopfest? BT Gunn vs. WALTER on Night 1 of Shug's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 What do we reckon the new venue will be for shugs? Still 2 days so Barras is too big and the garage will be too small. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 School of Art maybe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Barras isn't that much bigger than the ABC so it's the best bet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 It's at the Academy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Surprised at that initially but then again with a ring downstairs capacity would be seriously limited, so probably not that much more than the ABC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Can't imagine the highest standing area would be getting used either, given that no c**t would be able to see from about the third row back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Grado's returning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Joe Vs Mark cancelled for shugs due to NXTUK commitments. I suspect this is only the beginning of this type of thing. Is Hunter about to do a Vince McMahon on the UK "territories"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Fair play Jeff Cobb announced for night 2. More of these type of top end indie talents are definitely an incentive to get tickets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Joe Vs Mark cancelled for shugs due to NXTUK commitments. I suspect this is only the beginning of this type of thing. Is Hunter about to do a Vince McMahon on the UK "territories"?And THIS is why I'm against NXT starting a UK branch. Soaking up all the half decent talent from other commitments. In fact the indie scene appears much weaker full stop due to NXT. Great for the guy and girls there but for the other promotions? Nope. Mark my words, in 5 years the indies will be starved of talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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