The Minertaur Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-39652701 It's getting out of hand now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-39652701 It's getting out of hand now. I read about Americans using the net to combat the missile launch. That must be what it means. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Trump saying there's a chance of a "major, major conflict" with North Korea, and the Koreans responding with a propaganda video depicting the destruction of Washington and the US navy. Could something kick off between the belligerent rogue state, and North Korea? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Zetterlund said: Trump saying there's a chance of a "major, major conflict" with North Korea, and the Koreans responding with a propaganda video depicting the destruction of Washington and the US navy. Could something kick off between the belligerent rogue state, and North Korea? Sometimes I really miss Top of the Pops. With some catchy lyrics - this would surely go straight to Number 1 in the charts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 The sad thing is there's f*ck all funny about this. You have the US Secretary of State, the equivalent to our Foreign Secretary, saying that the US alone should handle the diplomatic side of the negotiations. The guy has no diplomatic/political experience and he's answering to a President who has no diplomatic/political experience (and is a fucking zoomer to boot). The other serious issue in all this is that under the. US system all the senior advisory positions are government appointees who largely change with the President, though, notably, Trump has failed to appoint many of the vacant/soon to be vacant slots. Compare this to the UK. Boris Johnson may be a tool, but he has some political experience and sufficient to listen to the career Civil Servants who are professionals and not changed with a change of administration. The idea that we should leave this all to Tillerson and Trump is like some fucking parody of reality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 If they hadn't have felt so threatened, would they have rushed so hard to get the nuclear option? Maybe if our crusading christian governements had ignored them it would all have fallen apart by now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: The sad thing is there's f*ck all funny about this. You have the US Secretary of State, the equivalent to our Foreign Secretary, saying that the US alone should handle the diplomatic side of the negotiations. The guy has no diplomatic/political experience and he's answering to a President who has no diplomatic/political experience (and is a fucking zoomer to boot). The other serious issue in all this is that under the. US system all the senior advisory positions are government appointees who largely change with the President, though, notably, Trump has failed to appoint many of the vacant/soon to be vacant slots. Compare this to the UK. Boris Johnson may be a tool, but he has some political experience and sufficient to listen to the career Civil Servants who are professionals and not changed with a change of administration. The idea that we should leave this all to Tillerson and Trump is like some fucking parody of reality. I'd be quite happy about swapping Boris for Tillerson tbf. For the UK that is, not the US. P.S. On the other hand I can't imagine anything more dangerous to world peace than a Trump Boris double act. Edited April 28, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/china-and-north-korea-on-the-border/article34817039/ I know that it's the "in" thing to slag off Trump around here, but it looks like it's China that will do something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Another failed North Korean missile test apparently. What are they using - Mentos and two-litre bottles of ginger? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 On 29 April 2017 at 09:44, Hillonearth said: Another failed North Korean missile test apparently. What are they using - Mentos and two-litre bottles of ginger? Cheap Chinese rubbish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Why is it OK for us to have nuclear capability but not north Korea? Answers on the back of a tic tac please... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Cause America says so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, GTG_03 said: Why is it OK for us to have nuclear capability but not north Korea? Answers on the back of a tic tac please... This short video will explain One of the lines of this short documentary "Stay off my back, or I will attack and you don't want that" sums it up perfectly. Apart from "It's gettin, it's getting, it's getting it's getting kinda hectic. It's gettin. It's getting It's getting kinda hectic, It's gettin, it's gettin it's getting kinda hectic It's gettin, it's gettin it's getting kinda hectic. Quality. I posses something,I'm fresh. When my voice goes through the rest OF the microphone that I'm holdin Copy write lyrics so they can't be stolen" More or less tell you the problems faced in the Asian north east at these times. Edited April 30, 2017 by SlipperyP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 On 28/04/2017 at 19:18, Tony Ferrino said: If they hadn't have felt so threatened, would they have rushed so hard to get the nuclear option? Maybe if our crusading Christian governments had ignored them it would all have fallen apart by now. You forgot to mention Kim Jong Un's half-brother. Too much of a threat. He had to go. North Korea is an old fashioned communist country that feels threatened by everyone and everything. You just have to read any book about Joseph Stalin or Enver Hoxha (to name just two) to realize that communist leaders are paranoid. If we ignored them, they would do more to attract our attention. They seek nuclear weapons as protection (from regime change) but also as a means to blackmail other countries into providing aid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 On 2017-4-30 at 17:22, Fullerene said: You forgot to mention Kim Jong Un's half-brother. Too much of a threat. He had to go. North Korea is an old fashioned communist country that feels threatened by everyone and everything. You just have to read any book about Joseph Stalin or Enver Hoxha (to name just two) to realize that communist leaders are paranoid. If we ignored them, they would do more to attract our attention. They seek nuclear weapons as protection (from regime change) but also as a means to blackmail other countries into providing aid. It's not just commie leaders. Maybe it's those under threat, trying to garner support by exaggerating the situation? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-general-election-brexit-eu-countries-influence-uk-with-leaks-a7715851.html Your last point is bullshit. Christian crusaders want to change everyone to their way of thinking, and in whose name it's being done. Perhaps if we all left each other alone a bit without trying to impose values, we might all get along a bit better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/china-and-north-korea-on-the-border/article34817039/ I know that it's the "in" thing to slag off Trump around here, but it looks like it's China that will do something. China is just getting it's shit in order in the event that North Korea does go mental. If it were to kick off with anyone then China is fully aware that North Korea would get a booting, as soon as Nato/American boots are in the North then China will also come in and start pressing south. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 On 06/05/2017 at 20:32, Tony Ferrino said: It's not just commie leaders. Maybe it's those under threat, trying to garner support by exaggerating the situation? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-general-election-brexit-eu-countries-influence-uk-with-leaks-a7715851.html Your last point is bullshit. Christian crusaders want to change everyone to their way of thinking, and in whose name it's being done. Perhaps if we all left each other alone a bit without trying to impose values, we might all get along a bit better. Theresa May will accuse the EU of anything if it will get her more votes. However, that is a long way from the secret police taking you away in the middle of the night because you have the wrong opinion on Brexit or Scottish independence or anything else. Nor are you likely to lose your job, or miss out on promotion because you laughed at her attempt to eat chips. That would be commonplace in communist countries. In North Korea, the secret police would take your entire family because of guilt through association. People are even born in prison camps and must remain there because their grandfather or grandmother did something wrong. North Korea is threatened by the mere existence of South Korea, a country that speaks the same language - and seems to be a nicer place (even if that was not always so). In any case, a South Korean can travel to other parts of the world whereas a North Korean cannot. 200,000 people have defected from North Korea. You should really ask the question "Why is North Korea developing nuclear weapons?" Would China ever sit back if North Korea was attacked? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 North Korea have fired an unidentified projectile. According to SK 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 North Korea have fired an unidentified projectile. According to SK Probably just sending Hamiltons traffic cone back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Great article on the very limited options on dealing with North Korea. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-worst-problem-on-earth/528717/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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