die hard doonhamer Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Hard to say. If he had already served the ban I don't think they would have won as many games and would probably be out of contention already. They started 3-3, with wins against the giants, cardinals and 49ers. I think they'd have won those games without him as well. They could conceivably go 1-5 without him over the next 6 games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 They started 3-3, with wins against the giants, cardinals and 49ers. I think they'd have won those games without him as well. They could conceivably go 1-5 without him over the next 6 games. He was a 1 man wrecking crew against the 49ers, they may well still have won but the whole momentum of the game was down to Elliot's performance. I was reading the statement about it at work last night, Fact is, he was missing 4 games anyway as the circuit court doesn't sit again until December. The whole thing has been handled dreadfully. Goodell getting a lot of flak about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Larry Fitz signing up for one more year in Arizona. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerSaint Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Tmz released footage of Jarvis Landry pushing his pregnant wife. Which, dare I say, isn't actually that bad. Twitter comments are full of raging Cowgirls fans ferociously going to bat for their own woman beater. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Tmz released footage of Jarvis Landry pushing his pregnant wife. Which, dare I say, isn't actually that bad. Twitter comments are full of raging Cowgirls fans ferociously going to bat for their own (alledged) woman beater. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 10 hours ago, jakedee said: FTFY Did the Cowboys fans mention his sexual harrasement and barroom violance as well? All within a Rookie year. Goddell is a c**t of the highest order but best thing he has done for Elliots career has suspended him for only 1 incident that might make him get his head screwed on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerSaint Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 10 hours ago, jakedee said: FTFY I've not been following it that closely but I'm pretty sure there were multiple incidents and photographic evidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 So, a player who has not been arrested or charged,never mind found guilty of any offence, can be banned by the league for accusations.Elliot may be a twat,but this sets a dangerous precedence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, jakedee said: So, a player who has not been arrested or charged,never mind found guilty of any offence, can be banned by the league for accusations.Elliot may be a twat,but this sets a dangerous precedence. Ben Roethlisberger was suspended for his rape allegation without a charge or arrest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Ben Roethlisberger was suspended for his rape allegation without a charge or arrest. So the NFL are a law unto themselves? Does it make it right? This opens the door for accusations to be flung around in the hope an opponent is banned.Strange. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerSaint Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, jakedee said: So the NFL are a law unto themselves? Does it make it right? This opens the door for accusations to be flung around in the hope an opponent is banned.Strange. NFL have clearly investigated it and deemed it significant enough to ban him for 6 games. Jarvis Landry had an incident which they investigated and didn't ban him for. NFL are obviously suspending players for bringing the league into disrepute whether there were charged or not. Should a player see no consequences for their actions just because that have enough money to keep someone quiet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, jakedee said: So the NFL are a law unto themselves? Does it make it right? This opens the door for accusations to be flung around in the hope an opponent is banned.Strange. I'm against it. Just pointing out that this has been happening under Goodell. Profits are way up, but that's the same for every big sports league in the world because of the TV rights bubble. He's fucked up so much about the league by centralizing power in himself and new seven figure bureaucratic hires in the league office. The power has moved away from the owners, who I would argue have the long term interests of the league most in mind. His judge, jury, executioner role is one way along with hiring a high powered league investigative unit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 Anything that annoys mega c**t Jerry Jones and hinders the Cowboys is good with me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, GingerSaint said: NFL have clearly investigated it and deemed it significant enough to ban him for 6 games. Jarvis Landry had an incident which they investigated and didn't ban him for. NFL are obviously suspending players for bringing the league into disrepute whether there were charged or not. Should a player see no consequences for their actions just because that have enough money to keep someone quiet? They are doing it with a system that divides ownership, poisons the relationship with the players union, and creates confusion and anger amongst their core fanbase. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 People acting like that has been his only questionable action. In 1 year as an employee of the NFL he has had 3 notices that could get him banned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 NFL have clearly investigated it and deemed it significant enough to ban him for 6 games. Yet the police have investigated it, and found nothing to charge him with. I am not defending Elliot,as he clearly is unhinged,but a system that allows players to be banned,because an accusation has been made against him, is strange. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, jakedee said: Yet the police have investigated it, and found nothing to charge him with. I am not defending Elliot,as he clearly is unhinged,but a system that allows players to be banned,because an accusation has been made against him, is strange. That's not the system but even if it was, you need to remember Elliot works for the NFL. It is the same NFL that will ban players for actually doing something that is legal in a few NFL States. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, Antiochas III said: That's not the system but even if it was, you need to remember Elliot works for the NFL. It is the same NFL that will ban players for actually doing something that is legal in a few NFL States. Right, but they only get suspended with proof and there's clear rules about the penalties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerSaint Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 58 minutes ago, jakedee said: Yet the police have investigated it, and found nothing to charge him with. I am not defending Elliot,as he clearly is unhinged,but a system that allows players to be banned,because an accusation has been made against him, is strange. What I'm saying is that the NFL aren't just a banning him because of an accusation. They are banning him because they investigated that accusation and found something worth a suspension. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, GingerSaint said: What I'm saying is that the NFL aren't just a banning him because of an accusation. They are banning him because they investigated that accusation and found something worth a suspension. I don't think they get that the NFL don't need the same amount of proof as the legal system to ban someone. They just need enough that the player has brought the company into disripute. Elliot should count himself lucky that there was only 1 charge when it should have been three. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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