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Not really sure i want to discuss this, to be honest i find it rather embarrassing and there's more than a couple of arseholes on this site who love a free bit of ammo for taking the piss out of people.

As ive mentioned before i've been having some trouble coping with Agoraphobia, It was something first identified at the beginning of the year by my GP, but its something ive had for a long time now and its slowly built up on me. about 10 years ago me and a friend were attacked while walking home one night from a trip to a local shop, got roughed up pretty badly and had a knife pulled on me. Friend got a bottle over the head but was in a position to make a break for it while i wasn't so i received the brunt of the attack. Not that i ever blamed him in anyway, we were outnumbered and if i had seen a chance to run i would have also. 

Ever since that night i've pretty much avoided going out at dark as much as i possibly can, as you can imagine it affected my social life and my jobs as knowing it would be dark when i went home would affect my ability to concentrate on tasks. I pretty much did what most people would do in this situation and ignored it until it got worse til the beginning of the year when it began to also affect me going out in the day also. It has really affected my attempts to deal with my depression as i avoid going out as much as i can and so i've stopped going to support meetings, i see my GP less, stopped going to the gym the various things i was trying to help myself.

Roll on to last Friday and we are out shopping at the local supermarket, i have the usual apprehension i've come to expect and attempt to alleviate with propanol. I'm browsing in the pet food isle when i turn round to see my family members are gone, i start to get concerned which really annoys me because i'm a grown man and i shouldn't be feeling scared like a small child having lost a parent. This concern elevates to a small panic attack as i'm trying to find said family members.

I fucking hate having Agoraphobia and i really hate how much its destroyed my life.


Fair play m8 for discussing this.(anyone who uses it for ammo is an arsehole)
Have you tried CBT; it gets good results; also what about mindfulness? It helps you stay in present and prevents your mind wandering.
Stay strong.

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Not really sure i want to discuss this, to be honest i find it rather embarrassing and there's more than a couple of arseholes on this site who love a free bit of ammo for taking the piss out of people.

As ive mentioned before i've been having some trouble coping with Agoraphobia, It was something first identified at the beginning of the year by my GP, but its something ive had for a long time now and its slowly built up on me. about 10 years ago me and a friend were attacked while walking home one night from a trip to a local shop, got roughed up pretty badly and had a knife pulled on me. Friend got a bottle over the head but was in a position to make a break for it while i wasn't so i received the brunt of the attack. Not that i ever blamed him in anyway, we were outnumbered and if i had seen a chance to run i would have also. 

Ever since that night i've pretty much avoided going out at dark as much as i possibly can, as you can imagine it affected my social life and my jobs as knowing it would be dark when i went home would affect my ability to concentrate on tasks. I pretty much did what most people would do in this situation and ignored it until it got worse til the beginning of the year when it began to also affect me going out in the day also. It has really affected my attempts to deal with my depression as i avoid going out as much as i can and so i've stopped going to support meetings, i see my GP less, stopped going to the gym the various things i was trying to help myself.

Roll on to last Friday and we are out shopping at the local supermarket, i have the usual apprehension i've come to expect and attempt to alleviate with propanol. I'm browsing in the pet food isle when i turn round to see my family members are gone, i start to get concerned which really annoys me because i'm a grown man and i shouldn't be feeling scared like a small child having lost a parent. This concern elevates to a small panic attack as i'm trying to find said family members.

I fucking hate having Agoraphobia and i really hate how much its destroyed my life.

Not embarrassing at all mate, that's a serious situation to have experienced and the vast majority of people would feel pretty scarred by it one way or another.

Are your family and friends aware of this in any depth? If not, they might be able to help you more with things like going out and about; making planned routes when walking to the supermarket, making sure you're not suddenly deserted on your own etc. Also, if they're able to help in any way, it might make you feel like you're not just trying to cope on your own.

I don't know if this is a thing, but do GPs do appointments over the phone or anything? I know avoiding going out shouldn't be encouraged, but speaking to him/her over the phone and then gradually increasing it to face-to-face appointments might help. Means you're still speaking to your GP while going out a bit more at a time.

It sounds like you and your mate were extremely unlucky in a wrong-place/wrong-time kinda thing, and it's such a shame that it's affecting you so much. Feel free to fire a PM over any time. I might not be much use but if you're just needing someone to talk to for whatever reason, don't hesitate :)

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58 minutes ago, EdgarusQPFC said:

Not really sure i want to discuss this, to be honest i find it rather embarrassing and there's more than a couple of arseholes on this site who love a free bit of ammo for taking the piss out of people.

As ive mentioned before i've been having some trouble coping with Agoraphobia, It was something first identified at the beginning of the year by my GP, but its something ive had for a long time now and its slowly built up on me. about 10 years ago me and a friend were attacked while walking home one night from a trip to a local shop, got roughed up pretty badly and had a knife pulled on me. Friend got a bottle over the head but was in a position to make a break for it while i wasn't so i received the brunt of the attack. Not that i ever blamed him in anyway, we were outnumbered and if i had seen a chance to run i would have also. 

Ever since that night i've pretty much avoided going out at dark as much as i possibly can, as you can imagine it affected my social life and my jobs as knowing it would be dark when i went home would affect my ability to concentrate on tasks. I pretty much did what most people would do in this situation and ignored it until it got worse til the beginning of the year when it began to also affect me going out in the day also. It has really affected my attempts to deal with my depression as i avoid going out as much as i can and so i've stopped going to support meetings, i see my GP less, stopped going to the gym the various things i was trying to help myself.

Roll on to last Friday and we are out shopping at the local supermarket, i have the usual apprehension i've come to expect and attempt to alleviate with propanol. I'm browsing in the pet food isle when i turn round to see my family members are gone, i start to get concerned which really annoys me because i'm a grown man and i shouldn't be feeling scared like a small child having lost a parent. This concern elevates to a small panic attack as i'm trying to find said family members.

I fucking hate having Agoraphobia and i really hate how much its destroyed my life.

Have you been looked at for PTSD?

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Cheers Lads, appreciate the kind words.

29 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

 


Fair play m8 for discussing this.(anyone who uses it for ammo is an arsehole)
Have you tried CBT; it gets good results; also what about mindfulness? It helps you stay in present and prevents your mind wandering.
Stay strong.

 

CBT has been mentioned a few times to me and im really starting to think it may be a solution.

14 minutes ago, smpar said:


Not embarrassing at all mate, that's a serious situation to have experienced and the vast majority of people would feel pretty scarred by it one way or another.

Are your family and friends aware of this in any depth? If not, they might be able to help you more with things like going out and about; making planned routes when walking to the supermarket, making sure you're not suddenly deserted on your own etc. Also, if they're able to help in any way, it might make you feel like you're not just trying to cope on your own.

I don't know if this is a thing, but do GPs do appointments over the phone or anything? I know avoiding going out shouldn't be encouraged, but speaking to him/her over the phone and then gradually increasing it to face-to-face appointments might help. Means you're still speaking to your GP while going out a bit more at a time.

It sounds like you and your mate were extremely unlucky in a wrong-place/wrong-time kinda thing, and it's such a shame that it's affecting you so much. Feel free to fire a PM over any time. I might not be much use but if you're just needing someone to talk to for whatever reason, don't hesitate :)

My immediate family are aware, both my gran's and my aunt have been very supportive, my aunt even offers to join me when i go places if i need it. Its very frustrating at times. Going short distances in the day is usually fine, most of the immediate family live within a 5-10 minute walk of my house and because i've lived in this area my entire life i'm very familiar and comfortable with it. I still have to take a propanol, but i manage. It's places further out and/or busy i start to have more trouble. My GP recommended i plan out a series of steps to build up good experiences going out again, planning out further and further distances with a end goal. Bout a 3 month's ago that goal was going to the cinema with a friend, he works in central station and i arrived maybe 5-10 minutes early and just being in a really busy place like that wasn't pleasant for me. But i managed.

5 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

Have you been looked at for PTSD?

I haven't, to be entirely honest i didn't even consider it

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5 hours ago, invergowrie arab said:

Have you been looked at for PTSD?

It's worth asking your GP EdgarusQPFC, it's now known that folk can develop PTSD following a violent attack like you describe.

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Cheers Lads, appreciate the kind words.
I haven't, to be entirely honest i didn't even consider it

Thought I'd just quote the latest bit, but sorry to hear about the arseholes that jumped you and your pal.
Sounds like you've been making really good progress mate. Managed in central station, went to the cinema. These are built up, busy places. You got a bit caught out in the shop when you weren't expecting but that's okay. Look at it as a wee test, you've come through it and now you know you can do it...because you did!

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My mate got home this morning. He's in a bad way though. What we thought and feared has been confirmed and his plan was to end his life in New York. Thankfully they have him at his GP just now to start getting the help he needs.

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19 minutes ago, Adolfo Rios said:

My mate got home this morning. He's in a bad way though. What we thought and feared has been confirmed and his plan was to end his life in New York. Thankfully they have him at his GP just now to start getting the help he needs.

Good to hear bud. GP is the best first step

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My mate got home this morning. He's in a bad way though. What we thought and feared has been confirmed and his plan was to end his life in New York. Thankfully they have him at his GP just now to start getting the help he needs.

Might not seem it with your pal being in a bad state but this is good news. First step on the road to recovery!

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7 minutes ago, EdgarusQPFC said:

Seen my GP this morning and discussed what happened. We have agreed to double my dose of Sertraline up to 100mg to see if that will help. 

Obviously I'm not a doctor, but this sounds like just dealing with the symptoms rather than the underlying issue. Is this the outcome you wanted?

Also do your work provide any sort of counselling or help? I work for a university and staff can use the counselling service.

 

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Seen my GP this morning and discussed what happened. We have agreed to double my dose of Sertraline up to 100mg to see if that will help. 

Agree with the post from DA, it will hopefully help the symptoms but from what you have described from symptoms cannot recommend counselling enough. Can take some time to access the service if private isn't an option but will get you to someone who can deal with the underlying issues while the meds do their thing. On a side note did your doctor touch on changing meds? I was on sertraline 200mg for a couple of months but did nothing for me, changed to citalopram 40mg now and finally feel that I am not the most useless person alive, which is how I have been for the last 15-16 months, long road still to go but between that and my CBT I will get there. Sure you will too so keep your head up and hope you get there soon.

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3 hours ago, EdgarusQPFC said:

Seen my GP this morning and discussed what happened. We have agreed to double my dose of Sertraline up to 100mg to see if that will help. 

I'm not a doctor and I'm not you. But I do have some personal experience and what you described sounded more like PTSD than agrophobia, of course the two are not mutually exclusive.

There seems to be loads of alternative therapies popping up recently for PTSD such as tapping therapy but no idea how you would get access to it.

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4 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Obviously I'm not a doctor, but this sounds like just dealing with the symptoms rather than the underlying issue. Is this the outcome you wanted?

Also do your work provide any sort of counselling or help? I work for a university and staff can use the counselling service.

 

 

4 hours ago, Moomintroll said:


Agree with the post from DA, it will hopefully help the symptoms but from what you have described from symptoms cannot recommend counselling enough. Can take some time to access the service if private isn't an option but will get you to someone who can deal with the underlying issues while the meds do their thing. On a side note did your doctor touch on changing meds? I was on sertraline 200mg for a couple of months but did nothing for me, changed to citalopram 40mg now and finally feel that I am not the most useless person alive, which is how I have been for the last 15-16 months, long road still to go but between that and my CBT I will get there. Sure you will too so keep your head up and hope you get there soon.

 

1 hour ago, invergowrie arab said:

I'm not a doctor and I'm not you. But I do have some personal experience and what you described sounded more like PTSD than agrophobia, of course the two are not mutually exclusive.

There seems to be loads of alternative therapies popping up recently for PTSD such as tapping therapy but no idea how you would get access to it.

Sorry i meant to post more but i haven't had the time. Along with the medication change i'm also going to arrange mindfulness sessions.  Previously i was on Citalopram 40mg until i built up a tolerance to it and switched to the Sertraline. If i dont see any improvement on the 100mg tabs we will look to wean me down to 50 again.

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Might not seem it with your pal being in a bad state but this is good news. First step on the road to recovery!


Absolutely. He's messaging me a bit tonight which is bloody brilliant. He has been prescribed anti-depressants (he hasn't went in to which one). Only the weeks course at a time given his fragile state.

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Absolutely. He's messaging me a bit tonight which is bloody brilliant. He has been prescribed anti-depressants (he hasn't went in to which one). Only the weeks course at a time given his fragile state.

That's great news mate. Might not really seem like much but the fact he's happy/willing/content to talk to message anyone given his last few days is really positive!

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36 minutes ago, Adolfo Rios said:

 


Absolutely. He's messaging me a bit tonight which is bloody brilliant. He has been prescribed anti-depressants (he hasn't went in to which one). Only the weeks course at a time given his fragile state.

 

I get moved onto weekly dispense when I'm not good. Then fortnightly etc which I see as wee goals. 

If his wife can quietly get bank card off him and credit cards might be sensible. 

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That's great news mate. Might not really seem like much but the fact he's happy/willing/content to talk to message anyone given his last few days is really positive!

Will echo that, the next few weeks will be hard going for him and everyone close to him and he will lash out at some points and say some hurtful things he doesn't mean. Stick with him and do all you can to help which you have clearly done up til now, as you know it's a shit place to be and he needs friends right now to get through this.

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I get moved onto weekly dispense when I'm not good. Then fortnightly etc which I see as wee goals. 
If his wife can quietly get bank card off him and credit cards might be sensible. 


She sent me a text earlier to say she was safe proofing where she could. I assume that means moving pills etc.

It's just great hearing from the big guy.

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My mate got home this morning. He's in a bad way though. What we thought and feared has been confirmed and his plan was to end his life in New York. Thankfully they have him at his GP just now to start getting the help he needs.


Bit of a random question mate, but you said he was denied entry. I'm assuming he didn't get a visa?

It's just incredible to think that forgetting to get a visa has saved his life.

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